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We Can Do Hard Things

No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey (Best Of)

23 Mar 2025

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1. The Nap Ministry’s Nap Bishop shares small, concrete ways to bring rest into our own lives – especially when rest seems impossible.  2. Why so many of us feel like machines instead of humans – and the power of imagination as a spiritual practice to reconnect with our humanity and divinity. 3. Why grind culture – a collaboration of capitalism and white supremacy – wants to keep us exhausted, and how we can resist a culture of overwhelming busy-ness.   4. Why everything changes when we embrace ease as our birthright.  5. Creative ways to reimagine rest within our hectic daily lives.  About Tricia Tricia Hersey is a Chicago native who has called Georgia home for the last 12 years. She has over 20 years of experience as a multidisciplinary artist, writer, theologian and community organizer. She is the founder of The Nap Ministry, an organization that examines rest as a form of resistance and reparations by curating spaces for the community to rest via community rest activations, immersive workshops, performance art installations, and social media. Her research interests include Black liberation theology, womanism, somatics, and cultural trauma. She is the author of the upcoming book Rest is Resistance: A Manifesto which will be published in October 2022. You can learn more about her work and the book at thenapministry.com. TW: @TheNapMinistry IG: @thenapministry To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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10.666 - 30.514 Abby

Hello, everybody. Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We are here with Trisha Hersey. Trisha Hersey is a Chicago native who has called Georgia home for the last 12 years. She has over 20 years of experience as a multidisciplinary artist, writer, theologian, and community organizer.

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31.034 - 54.669 Abby

She is the founder of the Knapp Ministry, an organization that examines rest as a form of resistance and reparations by curating spaces for the community to rest in via community rest activations, immersive workshops, performance art installations, and social media. Her research interests include Black liberation theology, womanism, somatics, and cultural trauma.

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55.089 - 70.484 Abby

She is the author of Rest is Resistance, a manifesto. You can learn more about Trisha's extremely important and brilliant work. and her book at thenapministry.com.

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70.524 - 98.978 Tricia Hersey

Trisha, welcome. Oh my goodness. Thank you. I love that good bio read. It's very much like black church, you know, in the black church when the visiting reverend comes and they sit and they read his amazing bio or her bio and the person sits there and they just kind of like take it in. I did that. You did that. Yeah. You're like, OK, thank you. That's beautiful. Thank you.

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99.018 - 100.879 Tricia Hersey

I'm excited to talk with you guys.

109.549 - 136.258 Abby

Okay? Okay. So I'm going to do it because I just feel it. So you started the nap ministry. Yes. Trisha. But in diving deeply into your work over the last few weeks, what I said to sister yesterday is I feel like calling... Trisha's work that not ministry would be like calling Jesus's work, a walking ministry. It's so deep and so important.

136.518 - 140.9 Abby

So my sister said, just please don't say the thing about Jesus and walking. So I said the thing.

142.8 - 165.491 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

Clearly, look sister, we made it through. You made it through. We made it through. And I was thinking, It's more like calling the reproductive justice movement about the right to choose when really it's about liberation. And your work is not about naps. It's about liberation.

165.511 - 191.317 Tricia Hersey

Yes, you got it. I'm so glad you... Thank you, sister. Yes, it is. Thank you. Because it is deep work. It is. And it also... When I think about the work and me being a performance artist and theater artist, I really did play up the idea of a nap ministry. And like it is in a lot of ways, it's ironic. And I did try to play with the idea of a persona. Like I call myself the nap bishop.

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