We Can Do Hard Things
Who Said What in that Group Chat Debacle & Is MAGA Starting to Fracture? | Jessica Yellin
27 Mar 2025
397. Who Said What in that Group Chat Debacle & Is MAGA Starting to Fracture? | Jessica Yellin This week, Amanda and Webby Award-winning journalist, Jessica Yellin, break down the most shocking political story in America: a leaked group chat between Trump’s top officials, revealing classified war plans and reckless national security breaches. What really happened in that Signal thread—and why it could finally fracture MAGA from the inside. -A step-by-step breakdown of the Signal group chat leak—how it happened, who was in it, and what was said -How sharing this information could have endangered American lives -Why the media, not top officials, took the real risks to protect national security Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand -- dedicated to helping you manage your “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy, Peabody and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent. You can follow her on Instagram at Jessica Yellin. And also, to get real time, clear and brilliant reporting, go to substack.com and search for her page newsnotnoise and subscribe there. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things.
I'm here with Jessica Yellen and we meet with you once a week to tell you what's going on in the world so that you know what's going on in the world in a way that is, I think the revolutionary thing about this, Jessica, is that it's meant to tell you what's going on in the world as opposed to meant to hook you in a vicious rollercoaster cycle of nervous system breakdown. Is that our objective?
I do think that that is a fair assessment of what we aim to do, at least. Great. Every week we try. We really, really try. We're not saying that there won't be a little bit of hilly terrain, but we're not intentionally taking you on the roller coaster. But we do want to respect you enough to tell you what's going on. in the world as clearly as it can be seen. Jessica sees it super clearly.
And then also the good news is then you have the information you need to take some action and then you can go about the rest of your week without having to toxicify your body with the onslaught of news that is intended to activate you. Is this correct? Yes.
I love that. So we titrate the toxicity of your news. Always within alliteration.
I love it.
I also appreciate how every week you try to frame our efforts in a way that people can understand, like, we're not trying to make you stressed. It's just that these events are very hard to put in the most calm context.
It's like trying to make it calm is like, The Homer Simpson. I can't promise to try, but I can try to try. We're going to try to try here today. Let's try to try. We're going to try to try.
So this has been a shocking, although we say it every week as if it's an anomaly, a shocking week of news, which unless... If you're hearing this bit of news for the first time, I'm really delighted for you because this one... Sit down, get ready. I would like to see your face. I wish I could see your face, listener, as you hear this, if you're hearing it for the first time.
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