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Most Voters Oppose Trump’s Tariffs, But His Supporters Are Still Behind Him

Fri, 04 Apr 2025

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P.M. Edition for April 4. A Wall Street Journal poll shows that most voters were already souring on President Trump’s handling of the economy even before Wednesday’s raft of tariffs. WSJ reporter and editor Aaron Zitner joins us to discuss the poll results. Plus, a 2,200-point drop in the Dow ends a brutal week for U.S. stocks. Krystal Hur, who covers markets for the Journal, breaks down what happened. And Trump signs an executive order granting a 75-day extension to work out details on a potential deal to keep TikTok operating in the U.S. Alex Ossola hosts. Your New Lunch Habit Is Hurting the Economy  Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How did the latest tariffs affect the stock market?

3.664 - 22.786 Alex Ossola

U.S. stocks plunge as China hits back with 34 percent tariffs, while oil prices tumble. Plus, Fed Chair Jerome Powell warns of weaker economic growth after the tariff hikes. And a new Wall Street Journal poll finds that voters soured on Trump's economic plans even before Wednesday's raft of new tariffs.

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23.171 - 31.978 Aaron Zittner

Donald Trump has done so much in the first two and a half months of his new term that it's hard to keep track of it all, and voters are still scrambling to catch up with some of it.

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32.358 - 55.558 Alex Ossola

It's Friday, April 4th. I'm Alex Osola for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. A sharp rise in trade war intensity sent Wall Street spiraling today. China's decision to apply a 34% levy to all imported goods from the U.S.

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55.978 - 79.371 Alex Ossola

rattled markets, in part because it further deflated hopes that a global settlement could be reached soon. Investors rushed into treasuries, pushing 10-year yields well below 4% before they drifted back up later. Oil prices slid further, with benchmark U.S. crude falling to about $62 a barrel. All major U.S. indexes dropped today, ending a brutal week.

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79.871 - 104.757 Alex Ossola

The Dow fell more than 2,200 points, closing down 5.5% lower today. It's down about 15% from its recent high, putting it in correction territory. The Nasdaq dropped 5.8%, pushing it into a bear market, which denotes a 20% decline from its peak. And the S&P 500 slid nearly 6%. The stock market has shed $6.6 trillion in the past two sessions.

Chapter 2: Why are investors concerned about China's tariff retaliation?

105.198 - 120.307 Alex Ossola

That's a new record, beating even the $4.4 trillion shed in March 2020. I'm joined now by Crystal Herr, who covers markets for The Journal. Well, Crystal, another day, another mess in the markets. What happened today?

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121.391 - 149.582 Krystal Hur

So we saw a lot of investors really scared by the fact that China said that it is going to retaliate against the U.S. with a 34% levy on its own on all imported goods from the U.S. So we saw this hit the stock market really hard. We saw S&P 500 drop 6%, the Nasdaq sliding about 6% as well. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell about 2,000 points. And we saw this hit across the market.

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149.642 - 152.489 Krystal Hur

It was a really widespread, brutal attack on markets.

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153.069 - 156.651 Alex Ossola

Yesterday, we saw the Magnificent Seven really take a hit. How'd they fare today?

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157.372 - 175.724 Krystal Hur

Not so great. They have lost about $1.6 trillion of market cap this week, which is a pretty sharp about face from the last two years. We had seen these stocks really be at the forefront of the bull market rally. But now we're seeing that a lot of these stocks are actually down quite a bit with double-digit percentage losses for the year.

176.072 - 181.556 Alex Ossola

So this has been two pretty rough days for the markets. What can we expect on Monday?

182.216 - 200.608 Krystal Hur

I'm not too sure. That's sort of the question on everyone's minds right now. A lot of people say that this has been totally unprecedented. They think that this could be the beginning of sort of a new regime for markets where that bull market rally that we've seen for the past two years is unlikely to jumpstart again anytime soon.

201.004 - 213.471 Alex Ossola

That was WSJ reporter Crystal Herr. Thank you, Crystal. Thanks. Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell warned of higher prices and weaker growth after President Trump's tariff hikes.

Chapter 3: What does Jerome Powell say about the economic impact of tariffs?

213.751 - 229.96 Jerome Powell

While uncertainty remains elevated, it is now becoming clear that tariff increases will be significantly larger than expected. And the same is likely to be true of the economic effects, which will include higher inflation and slower growth. The size and duration of these effects remains uncertain.

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231.735 - 239.2 Jerome Powell

While tariffs are highly likely to generate at least a temporary rise in inflation, it's also possible that the effects could be more persistent.

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Chapter 4: How are the IPO plans for major companies affected by market conditions?

240.081 - 254.911 Alex Ossola

In remarks in Virginia, Powell indicated that the central bank was still comfortable with its wait-and-see stance. While he acknowledged that risks of weaker growth had increased, he said it was too soon to say how the Fed would adjust interest rates to cushion the economy from the blow of weaker global trade.

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255.692 - 276.729 Alex Ossola

Ahead of Powell's remarks, President Trump posted on Truth Social, saying he hoped the Fed would cut interest rates. There was a glimmer of hope that initial public offerings in the U.S. were about to return. Now that hope is gone, as multiple companies are scuttling their plans to go public as the tariff turmoil freezes the IPO market.

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277.429 - 295.904 Alex Ossola

People familiar with the matter say that ticketing marketplace StubHub and buy-now-pay-later company Klarna are postponing their IPO roadshows, which were set to kick off next week. Some of those people also said that another fintech company, Chime, is pushing off filing its financials publicly with regulators and is delaying its IPO.

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296.485 - 321.741 Alex Ossola

And they said that virtual physical therapy company Hinge Health is watching the market before its anticipated late April offering. Meanwhile, crypto company Circle had been nearing its next steps in going public. But some of the people said the company is now watching anxiously before deciding what to do. Employers added jobs in March at a much stronger pace than expected.

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322.161 - 343.333 Alex Ossola

The Labor Department said today that the U.S. added 228,000 jobs last month, well above the gain of 140,000 jobs that economists expected. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate, which is based on a separate survey from the jobs figures, ticked up to 4.2 percent as more people entered the labor force. For more on what these numbers mean, I'm joined by WSJ economics correspondent Harriet Torrey.

Chapter 5: Why is the U.S. labor market stronger than expected?

344.033 - 353.305 Alex Ossola

Harriet, the labor market in March seems to have remained strong despite economic uncertainty, government layoffs, market turbulence. How? How has it stayed this strong?

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353.765 - 373.316 Harriet Torrey

Yeah, it was a big surprise. Largely what happened was that we saw more jobs being created in sectors like agriculture, Healthcare, transportation, leisure and hospitality. So those really bounce back. The government layoffs, of course, were an issue for this month. But what we saw was that the layoffs were actually pretty modest. It was just 4,000 jobs.

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373.576 - 384.879 Harriet Torrey

But one thing that is worth bearing in mind is that people who were receiving severance weren't necessarily counted as laid off. So there could perhaps be more people who are not working than expected.

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385.379 - 394.027 Alex Ossola

Of course, the mood about the economy is in a little bit of a different place now because of tariffs. Is the strength that we see in the labor market expected to continue?

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394.468 - 410.281 Harriet Torrey

The economists who I've spoken to today have largely said that they see this as backward-looking data, which it is. This is the month of March. A lot has changed since then. And there is an expectation that this is maybe the last hurrah and that we will see weakness starting to... show through in the months ahead for a number of reasons.

410.401 - 422.864 Harriet Torrey

We have less immigration, so that's potentially a smaller labor force. There's federal layoffs and businesses, they're dealing with a lot of uncertainty. And a lot of economists expect that they will be certainly more cautious about hiring in the months ahead.

423.345 - 452.315 Alex Ossola

That was WSJ economics correspondent Harriet Torrey. Thank you, Harriet. Thanks. Coming up, a majority of U.S. voters oppose Trump's levies, but the people who voted for him still support him. More after the break. Americans elected Donald Trump with a favorable opinion of his economic plans. Now, though, his expansive push for tariffs is making voters skeptical.

452.915 - 467.957 Alex Ossola

A new Wall Street Journal poll found that 54 percent of voters oppose Trump's levies on imported goods, while 42 percent support his plans. Seventy-five percent of voters said that tariffs will raise prices on the things they buy, up from 68 percent who said so in January.

468.617 - 487.979 Alex Ossola

The journal survey was conducted from March 27 through April 1, a time when Trump had imposed new tariffs on China and certain goods from Canada, Mexico and elsewhere, but before his Wednesday announcement of sweeping levies on nearly all U.S. trading partners and the subsequent market sell-off. Here to tell us more about what these results mean is WSJ reporter and editor Aaron Zittner.

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