Gary Bettman in Podcasts

But as for the godfather of lockouts, Gary Bettman, I guess he's speaking to the media in Carolina, and he has said he's had some preliminary talks about a succession plan when he does retire.

But just we've been remiss without mentioning the fact that Gary Bettman and Bill Daly did speak.

But in the NHL, as we all know, and you know this from your sit-down interviews with Gary Bettman once a year, Gary is the power broker in the National Hockey League.