John Redwood in Podcasts

but as leader of the Conservative Party. And he did this press conference in the Downing Street Garden, where he said to his critics, it's time to put up or shut up. And one person did put up, and it was John Redwood, who challenged him. And then there was a leadership contest, which John Major won quite convincingly, but not actually convincingly enough to shut everyone up about the criticisms of him. That's where that phrase comes from. Yeah, and you're completely right. And that is exactly, that's basically what Keir Starmer said today in pretty coded terms in his language. You know, there's no leadership contest, so I'm cracking on, i.e.,