Aaron Gordon
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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And then afterwards, it was like, oh, well, they tried sullying, you know, and bringing him down. But I don't know if Tom's report was then justified because he went in the fifth round or if you really think like Tom's report was so damaging to Shador that I assure you this.
a team was not planning on drafting Shador Sanders in the first round and then read a Tom Pelissero column on NFL.com and said, now, wait a second. If a random assistant coach who doesn't have his name on this says that it was a bad interview, well, then we can't take him. So I understand where people get very sensitive about that stuff.
Tom, it was on his decision to post to actually use it, not use it. He did. He went for it. And then the guy went in the fifth round and a lot of people said it was because of the interview.
My first week at ESPN was April, and I walked into – Get up and, you know, the topics on get up, which is their morning show in the production meeting is like, should, should, should door go second to the Browns or third to the giants? And I like, I'm like, all right. I'm like, this is my, my new job. And these people are awesome. And I am trying to, and like, I kind of go for it.
And I'm like, guys, I don't think he necessarily goes in the top 20 and they're like, well, he'll certainly go second. at least to the saints, you know, or he'll go. And I'm like, guys, and then Greenberg's looking at me like, really? And I'm like, yeah, and this is April 1st. I'm like, I don't know. I don't have a team. And I didn't have a team the following week.
And I didn't have a team the following week. And then I eventually, I'm like, I think Jackson Dart might go before him. And then it was like, what? So yeah, it's this awkward thing where you're like that the rest of the media wasn't going with it just quite yet. And I'm sure there were others. I think McShay was early on it. Like this, this is not, he was going the same way. Yeah.
And it's it, but it's not comfortable because we don't want to be negative. But when you see everyone else in the consensus saying, Oh, he's a second quarterback off the board. If Cam Ward is the first, like you start questioning your sources, but I have sources in 32 buildings and I did not have a first round team for Shador. I didn't up until the draft.
No doubt. And I almost think it's not like... The big question is, did Dion cause him to slide? No, Dion did not cause him to slide. This is... if you draft him, you're drafting a player that if he's your starting quarterback, like you said, and you're going all in, like it's not bad as a backup. It's a totally different conversation.
So I don't think anyone, they didn't, he didn't have the electric speed or the huge arm or the winds or the anything to necessarily be a first round pick. And then once you're not a first round pick, it's, Then it's like, wait, but there's all that that comes with it. Is he definitely dedicated to being a backup?
Because you never want to get into that thing, but it's like, I remember covering when the Eagles brought in Tebow as like the third string and it couldn't last because cameras, whether it's Tebow's fault or not, cameras weren't dealing with Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez. It was like, let's go right to Tebow. It's just an uncomfortable situation. I don't think it'll be the case in Cleveland.
Maybe it will, but like, it's an easier spot to draft someone with that celebrity at first round. I will say this about Belichick's interview. Did you guys watch it? Yeah, I just saw the clip. Yeah, I thought that was just a regular girlfriend. Yeah, like people's girlfriends do that all the time. They're always involved in something. I work in television. You guys work in media.
CBS Sunday Morning is the... the nicest, most pleasant. This is not 60 Minutes. This is not real sports. It's bullshit. They left it in. I would say the opposite. My thought is this. I think you hate love. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I'm on this show. I'm a romantic.
If that's the version that CBS Sunday Morning did while they're promoting a book for him, What was left on the cutting room floor? Oh, that's really negative of you, Peter.
I would say that interviewer, Tony from CBS, that was as hard-hitting or as straight-on and direct an interview I've ever seen. Everyone in NFL media where I'm at, it's always timidly going around Belichick, and then you laugh at his snapface thing, even though you don't really think it's funny. This guy is just like, So let's talk about Jordan. I'm like, yeah, good journalism.
the giants have had the roughest reputational year that a team can imagine with what happened. And it was Saquon. It was hard knocks. It was also Xavier McKinney going on to have about 10 picks and being the best safety in football. And in the matter of three days, Joe Shane and Brian Dable have completely changed the conversation around this team where like every giants fan is like back on board.
They're like, let's go. And they did it by getting maybe the best player in this draft and Carter and trading back up and smartly trading back up to where they had to get 24, where if you had done it at 16, you might have had to give up too much. They played the game of chicken perfectly with whoever else might have traded up.
And then to get Scataboo and Marcus Bowe and to get Alexander, every single position of need that they had, they checked the box. And I'm telling you, It reputationally, it's the first ray of light since that hard knock stuff aired last summer. And Joe Shane has been a, you know, a punchline in a lot of places.
I think today like giants fans and we're doing this Sunday night are like, you know what? Shane did a pretty good job. Now look, they could go three and 14 and that's that. And we laugh about this, but like at the very least they got impact players at better values than anyone expected.
You know, I actually think the 49ers did a really nice job getting back to their basics. This is a team that always prided themselves on defensive line. And over the years, because of attrition, they've lost Armstead. Bosa wasn't what he was last year as he was in recent years. And then they were just like, we're going to beef up on defensive line.
They get, you know, Williams in the 11th pick, but then they add another defensive lineman. They add another defensive lineman. And then... If you know that defense, it's like Chris Kocerek is their defensive line coach. He's the one who's always barking, and it's like that is where it all starts for them.
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