Aaron Levie

So I think my point is just, we need to give this time to work. I think it's too soon to be judging this policy as if it hasn't worked yet. It needs to be executed properly. And quite frankly, Ryan, I mean, I remember the last time you were on this pod, you were coming on about... Wasn't there like some union deal that was supposed to shut down all the ports and all the shelves would be empty?

So I think my point is just, we need to give this time to work. I think it's too soon to be judging this policy as if it hasn't worked yet. It needs to be executed properly. And quite frankly, Ryan, I mean, I remember the last time you were on this pod, you were coming on about... Wasn't there like some union deal that was supposed to shut down all the ports and all the shelves would be empty?

That never happened either. It did happen.

That never happened either. It did happen.

Okay. I don't remember the shelves being empty, which is now the new panic the media is trying to create. So, look, there's a lot of pants sweating that's occurring here that's being fueled by the media.

Okay. I don't remember the shelves being empty, which is now the new panic the media is trying to create. So, look, there's a lot of pants sweating that's occurring here that's being fueled by the media.

We have to stick the landing. But look. China, over the last 25 years, has been able to strategically annihilate our rare earth processing capability and our ability to cast rare earth magnets. We just sat back and watched as the market basically went to the lowest bidder, which was being subsidized by the Chinese government, which the WTO allowed them to do.

We have to stick the landing. But look. China, over the last 25 years, has been able to strategically annihilate our rare earth processing capability and our ability to cast rare earth magnets. We just sat back and watched as the market basically went to the lowest bidder, which was being subsidized by the Chinese government, which the WTO allowed them to do.

And now we have a critical dependency in our supply chain on China for basically every electric motor in every product, including cars. That was crazy. We should not have allowed that to happen.

And now we have a critical dependency in our supply chain on China for basically every electric motor in every product, including cars. That was crazy. We should not have allowed that to happen.

So we needed to shift the political conversation to recognize the ways in which free trade led to unfair trade and created unacceptable dependencies for the American economy.

So we needed to shift the political conversation to recognize the ways in which free trade led to unfair trade and created unacceptable dependencies for the American economy.

Aaron, where are you with this? Hold on, hold on. This is one last point. We're going to move on to the next topic. Excuse me. You didn't call me for 40 minutes. I just want to make one final point. Aaron. Here he goes. Aaron, where were you with this perfect plan? Yeah. Where were you with this perfect plan before Liberation Day? I was telling Kamala about it. You were telling Kamala. Okay, great.

Aaron, where are you with this? Hold on, hold on. This is one last point. We're going to move on to the next topic. Excuse me. You didn't call me for 40 minutes. I just want to make one final point. Aaron. Here he goes. Aaron, where were you with this perfect plan? Yeah. Where were you with this perfect plan before Liberation Day? I was telling Kamala about it. You were telling Kamala. Okay, great.

He was.

He was.

All the people who suddenly know what the perfect plan is and how to perfectly execute it, no barrel rolls, had nothing to say about this topic for 25 years. And all of a sudden, they've come forward with their perfect plans.

All the people who suddenly know what the perfect plan is and how to perfectly execute it, no barrel rolls, had nothing to say about this topic for 25 years. And all of a sudden, they've come forward with their perfect plans.

Yes. All right.

Yes. All right.