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Aaron Levie

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

There was a brief week in 2021 where the thought kind of crossed my mind. Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

There was a brief week in 2021 where the thought kind of crossed my mind. Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

We have a very sophisticated audit committee that prevented the action. Will you do this for me? Yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

We have a very sophisticated audit committee that prevented the action. Will you do this for me? Yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

We just did a convert, so we're probably $600 or $700 million.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

We just did a convert, so we're probably $600 or $700 million.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

I think it's a strong pick. So... Let the genuflecting begin. Go for it, Aaron. So Crypto, I'm a little bit indifferent on. You know, I haven't, you know, we haven't spent much time there, leaned in much there, but on AI... I think is a very strong pick. And I think you want somebody that has a general deregulation, anti-regulation bent at this stage in the evolution of the technology.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

I think it's a strong pick. So... Let the genuflecting begin. Go for it, Aaron. So Crypto, I'm a little bit indifferent on. You know, I haven't, you know, we haven't spent much time there, leaned in much there, but on AI... I think is a very strong pick. And I think you want somebody that has a general deregulation, anti-regulation bent at this stage in the evolution of the technology.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

I think there's risk of slowing down too much progress right now. And I think he'll provide some good... parameters and principles around how to avoid that. So I think very strong. And then crypto, again, don't know too much about. And then we'll see the rest of the topics.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

I think there's risk of slowing down too much progress right now. And I think he'll provide some good... parameters and principles around how to avoid that. So I think very strong. And then crypto, again, don't know too much about. And then we'll see the rest of the topics.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And just to be clear, are you talking about the EO that went out?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And just to be clear, are you talking about the EO that went out?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

In reverse order, was against SB 1047... It felt like, you know, you had two big issues. One, you probably don't want state-by-state legislation on this topic. That's going to be, you're in a world of hurt if every state has a different approach to this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

In reverse order, was against SB 1047... It felt like, you know, you had two big issues. One, you probably don't want state-by-state legislation on this topic. That's going to be, you're in a world of hurt if every state has a different approach to this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And then secondarily, if you just look at how it evolved from the very first proposal to the final proposal, and unfortunately, the kind of underlying philosophy that was in the bill, it was very clearly a sort of like viewing, you know, basically AI progress as inherently risky right now. And so it just ratcheted up the different levels of consequence for the AI model developers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And then secondarily, if you just look at how it evolved from the very first proposal to the final proposal, and unfortunately, the kind of underlying philosophy that was in the bill, it was very clearly a sort of like viewing, you know, basically AI progress as inherently risky right now. And so it just ratcheted up the different levels of consequence for the AI model developers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And the risk is sort of the second or third order effects of that, which is like, does Zuck then want to release the next version of Llama if you're taking on that much risk? And even the incremental updates, the liability you have In terms of any of the model advancements. And so right now we're benefiting from just an incredibly competitive market between five or six players.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And the risk is sort of the second or third order effects of that, which is like, does Zuck then want to release the next version of Llama if you're taking on that much risk? And even the incremental updates, the liability you have In terms of any of the model advancements. And so right now we're benefiting from just an incredibly competitive market between five or six players.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And you want them running as fast as possible, not having to have sort of this, you know, a whole council before every model gets released because they're, you know, in fear of getting sued by, you know, the government for hundreds of millions of dollars if one person does something wrong with the model. So that was the problem with SB 1047.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

And you want them running as fast as possible, not having to have sort of this, you know, a whole council before every model gets released because they're, you know, in fear of getting sued by, you know, the government for hundreds of millions of dollars if one person does something wrong with the model. So that was the problem with SB 1047.