Aaron Siri
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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So the, yeah, well, yes. I mean, it's, what's unfortunate about it is that And the reason I know about any of these things is because in these depositions with regards, in these depositions with regards to religious beliefs, the issue of aborted, aborted fetal tissues come up. And so a lot of times they like to say, oh, well, it only involved a few babies way back when.
And so I have a whole series of, in these depositions of showing, no, it's not just a few babies way back when, it was a lot of babies. and it's still ongoing, and this industry has only grown. And with that said, I was saying that these parents in Brooklyn, unless you want to stick on this topic, sounds like you don't.
So going back to these families in Brooklyn, many of them religious, and not in different religions, not all of them were, many of them were ultra religious Jews, but some of them were other religions actually, who have beliefs where they do not want to participate with that product for the reasons we just discussed, okay? And so they will not take the MMR vaccine. They won't give it to our kids.
They won't take it. And so here's the city of New York saying, no, you must, you must take it. I mean, if you didn't, and what they did is they went into like the registry. And if you were not in the registry as vaccinated, they hunted you down to your house and they showed up at your door and they gave you a violation for literally existing as God created you.
You got, as God created you, you're just standing in your house, right? Just existing. And they gave a violation. And so ICANN actually supported us to represent anybody, anybody that got those violations. And hundreds of people got them. And we got almost all of them dismissed before the hearing. Technical stuff. You served at this time.
In this instance.
Well, yeah, I mean, they're organized, but also, you know, they were very lucky in some respects in that, you know, ICANN, which believes in informed consent, that's the name, Informed Consent Action Network, you know, supported our firm. A lot of the policy work we do is on their behalf. to defend anybody with these violations.
And so they put a notice out in Yiddish in the paper, if you got a violation, just call our firm. And so they did. And like I was saying, we got most of them dismissed, except for like 20. Now, we went down to the hearing, this is a long road to answer your question from earlier, is that we went down to the hearing,
the head lawyer of the New York City Department of Health was on the other side in the hearing room defending the city of New York. And so we ended up in the hallway at one point, you know, just chatting. Very nice guy, actually, you know. Actually not as much of an ideologue as a lot of the folks I encounter in health departments.
And, you know, we had worked collaboratively to, we got most of them dismissed even before that. And, you know, lawyer to lawyer says to me, why are you doing this? It's like, I mean, I looked you up and like, you went to Berkeley, clerk for the chief judge, you went to like, why, you know, and this was earlier on before I clearly was doing this work. Do you know what I mean?
At this point, this is what I do. And I said to him, and this answers your question from earlier. I said to him, look, you asked me a question earlier. You said, how am I treated, right? Do I feel like I'm outcast? And I said to you, but there's a community that needs support. And so this is me finally answering that question. He said to me, why do you do this?
And I said to him, I said, look, I said, I want you to just imagine the following. Imagine a group of people in America right now, today. Pick a group, pick an ethnic group, a religious group, pick a group in your mind, okay? Now, I want you to imagine people go on national television and they say the most horrific things about them and they feel no filter in saying them.
They talk about throwing their kids out of school dispelling them from their jobs. They call them quacks. They call them all kinds of horrible names. They do all the things to them we say we should never do to somebody, right? Because they're this religion or this ethnicity or so forth. We should never do those things. I said, that's the group you're talking about.
I said, you're talking about a group of individuals most people vaccinate. I said to him, most people vaccinate. They choose to do it, okay? Rare is the person in my mind who just wakes up one day and goes, you know what I want to do today? I'm going to stop vaccinating my kids so that I can be called anti-quack, anti-vax, maybe get them kicked out of school, lose friends, be called anti-science.
That's what I'm going to do today. No, no, nobody makes that decision lightly. To go against the social grain, and there's a strong social grain on this, especially pre-COVID, you have to have something pretty powerful happen to you. That's right. To make you decide, whoa. I'm not going to do that. Or I have some seriously held beliefs or one thing or another.
And I said, this is the group of people you're talking about. You're talking about a group of people who typically they're not vaccinating because their child themselves has had a, somebody in their family has bad, some kind of adverse events, some kind of bad experience. And so they've realized they overcome that social conformity to do what they think they have to do in that instance.
And then they, To add to that injury, what does society do to them? It adds insult. It calls them names. It berates them. It throws their kids out of school. I mean, it treats them in the worst ways possible, the type of stuff we should never do to people. But that's how those people are treated. And so when you say to me, do I feel like I've lost friends? Yeah, yeah, I've lost friends.
But there's an entire community of folks out there who are that group I just described to you. And those folks don't have the government working for them. The government not only doesn't work for them, the government fights them with DOJ attorneys, berates them when they try to even file claims.
I mean, some of the reports about the Vaccine Recompensation Program talks about the aggressiveness of some of the attorneys and how they treat some of the petitioners. The government's not working for vaccine injuries, it's working against the vaccine injured. It literally fights against their claims. So they're not looking out for them. Industry's not looking out for them.
Who's looking out for them? They look out for each other. And that forms a really strong community of individuals of what some call the anti-vaxxers or the medical freedom folks. Really, they're just people who wanna live their lives and they don't wanna talk about this.
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