Aaron Siri
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Have you noticed this, by the way? Absolutely. There's an irony in the following way. Those who often don't wanna receive vaccines, I find are the ones, not always, who have taken the time to really look at the clinical trials, the post-licensure safety, to understand these products more objectively.
The CDC will tell you that the people who have the highest rates of completely unvaccinated kids are ones with PhDs and are highly educated often in the sciences. So what are they learning? What are they understanding that caused them not to receive these products? And so I find the quote unquote, those who oppose vaccines, you know, whatever pejorative one wants to use about them.
Oftentimes, and that's just not me saying it. I mean, I'm saying that when they survey, because they've tried to identify, well, who are the populations refusing these products? They find they're disproportionately highly educated. There are some folks who don't have access to care and they just don't get it because they don't get it.
But those who consciously choose, typically very highly educated. Now, To now answer your question, which is, have I seen religion almost when it comes to these products? Yes, I have. But it comes from often the side of the folks who want to make you get them, force people to do it. You must believe what I believe about these products. That's right. You must submit. How dare you ask questions?
Do not ask questions. You must just believe. And you often hear it in the following. I've never heard people say, I believe in statins. Well, that's exactly the point, right. I believe in vaccines. That's the language they use. It's the language of religion. And you're asking me to speculate, so I'll speculate, which I usually prefer not to do.
But it is for a lot of people, and I found this with a lot of the vaccinologists who I've deposed and interacted with, a lot of them are atheists. And maybe they were brought up in a certain religion, but they have now become atheists. And I think when somebody doesn't have a religion in their life, any religion, they don't believe in God, some God.
ends up with an empty space that needs to be filled with something. They have to believe in something. How do you not believe in something in this life? You have to have meaning. It's gotta be a really dark place to not believe, to believe everything came from nothing. And if you do, I'm speculating that vaccines start holding a place of religion, that they look to it as, see, this saved us.
This is what saved humanity. And I think there's maybe some degree of that, that this notion that vaccines are, especially those in the medical profession. And I'll give you an example. I'll use the example of measles, okay? The great killer that you'll often hear. They make you feel like everyone's gonna die if you don't get measles vaccines. Well, here's the thing.
Public health authorities don't, should take credit for the decline in measles deaths in America. They should, but they should take credit in the following way. Between the year 1900, this is all on the CDC website, what I'm about to tell you, and the year 1960, 61, 62, the years before the first measles vaccine in America, 1963, the mortality rate for measles declined by over 98%.
Yes, by over 98%. That is, you can just go pull up the mortality data on the CDC website. This is uncontroversial. It's just data, what I just said. Some people get emotional about it, but it's just data, what I just said. Why would they get emotional? Well, for the reasons we just discussed. That decline had nothing to do with vaccines. You know how I know? There was no measles vaccine.
That's all I know. What caused that decline? I think that in part, it's the public health authorities should take a lot of credit for that. Nutrition, sanitation. Better sanitation, clean water, getting sewage running out of the streets. Right. All of these things, initiatives to make sure that there's natural light. Remember all the tenement buildings? Yes.
All these initiatives, even basic things like, Quarantine, oh, if you're sick, not the kind of forced kind of stay at home stuff that we're talking about, just if you're sick, hey, maybe you should stay at home in bed kind of stuff. And so that decline over 98%
You know how many people died in the few years, on average, a year before there was the first measles vaccine in 1963, when pox of this country were still like the developed world? Around 400 Americans a year died. That's one in 500,000 Americans died of measles in the years before they were vaccinated. Every death's a tragedy.
And measles can still kill people just like any virus can in parts of the world that are really underdeveloped. Any virus can kill children, adults. And there were still pockets of America in the early 60s that were like that. But that declining rate of mortality, it was a trajectory that was ongoing, even when the measles vaccine was introduced in 63.
So those 400 deaths, which have now gone down, how much of that is attributable to measles vaccine? How much of it is to the continued efforts of public health agencies, right? That could be debated forever. We don't need to. But the important point is this. Long way to answer your question is this. When you listen to public health authorities today,
they will say to you, measles is what caused the decline. Measles vaccine is what caused the decline in mortality. They never talk about those other things that they did. They never talk about the increased sanitation, the better, all the different effective measures that they took to get it down by 98%.
They talk about that last 1%, but they make it seem like the vaccine, which caused that last 1% of decline from 1900, or some, I shouldn't even say it caused it, You could argue it's up to one point something percent was from the measles vaccine. You can't argue it's more than that in the decline. It's not possible. But they ignore that.
And the only thing they'll point to is say, excuse me, measles vaccine is what saved us. And that's true of most of the vaccines, actually. When you look at the number of people that died in the year before the vaccine, typically the mortality had precipitously declined.
For diphtheria, for tetanus, for almost every disease declined 80 or 80, 90% before the introduction, from the year 1900, introduction of the first vaccine. And oftentimes in the year before, you're down to a dozen or two months, a dozen or two dozen deaths, you know, for most of these things.
So, you know, when you talk about religious beliefs, but yet many in the medical community, they'll say, well, how could you not take a vaccine? Millions in America would die. And that's an incredible statistic to think millions in America would die a year if you don't get vaccinated, because if you just add up
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