Abené Clayton

Thanks for having me, Gene.

Thanks for having me, Gene.

Thanks for having me, Gene.

This dude might have been Batman.

This dude might have been Batman.

This dude might have been Batman.

You know, it is violence... hitting somebody who a lot of people feel like typifies the inequalities that lead to other forms of violence. You know what I'm saying?

You know, it is violence... hitting somebody who a lot of people feel like typifies the inequalities that lead to other forms of violence. You know what I'm saying?

You know, it is violence... hitting somebody who a lot of people feel like typifies the inequalities that lead to other forms of violence. You know what I'm saying?

I think the Bonnie and Clyde thing is quite accurate. Yes, this was a very public and hard to watch, traumatizing act of violence that will impact his family for years to come. And also, what does he represent? What's the backdrop, right?

I think the Bonnie and Clyde thing is quite accurate. Yes, this was a very public and hard to watch, traumatizing act of violence that will impact his family for years to come. And also, what does he represent? What's the backdrop, right?

I think the Bonnie and Clyde thing is quite accurate. Yes, this was a very public and hard to watch, traumatizing act of violence that will impact his family for years to come. And also, what does he represent? What's the backdrop, right?

Yeah, you know, that's a good question. I think it is violence, right? To me, by definition of what harm and violence is, I would absolutely put it in that category. But I think in the U.S., we have such a narrow framework of whose victimization deserves to be remediated. I hear it all the time when I write about shootings that happen, you know, in our hoods across America.

Yeah, you know, that's a good question. I think it is violence, right? To me, by definition of what harm and violence is, I would absolutely put it in that category. But I think in the U.S., we have such a narrow framework of whose victimization deserves to be remediated. I hear it all the time when I write about shootings that happen, you know, in our hoods across America.

Yeah, you know, that's a good question. I think it is violence, right? To me, by definition of what harm and violence is, I would absolutely put it in that category. But I think in the U.S., we have such a narrow framework of whose victimization deserves to be remediated. I hear it all the time when I write about shootings that happen, you know, in our hoods across America.

Someone can straight up be shot and killed, a young 22 year old. And it's like, well, that's no victim. Is that violence or is that someone getting, you know, all these like flippant comments that now are kind of directed at this CEO. I've seen befall people with no power. Very little money, honestly, whose communities have been scarred by the extractive nature of industries like health care.

Someone can straight up be shot and killed, a young 22 year old. And it's like, well, that's no victim. Is that violence or is that someone getting, you know, all these like flippant comments that now are kind of directed at this CEO. I've seen befall people with no power. Very little money, honestly, whose communities have been scarred by the extractive nature of industries like health care.

Someone can straight up be shot and killed, a young 22 year old. And it's like, well, that's no victim. Is that violence or is that someone getting, you know, all these like flippant comments that now are kind of directed at this CEO. I've seen befall people with no power. Very little money, honestly, whose communities have been scarred by the extractive nature of industries like health care.

It's violent. But obviously, Brian Thompson is not a young black boy on the corner who's unfortunately gunned down. But to see his victimhood also questioned in this way is it's been interesting to to watch. Hmm.

It's violent. But obviously, Brian Thompson is not a young black boy on the corner who's unfortunately gunned down. But to see his victimhood also questioned in this way is it's been interesting to to watch. Hmm.