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expert oh yes so thank you so much coming from you that's quite a compliment oh please let's talk about your wife Wendy the two of you work together as a team what is that like and how do you and Wendy like helping out couples

That's beautiful.

Wendy shared on social media that you two met and got married within six months.

How did you know so quickly that she was the one?

Gotcha.

That's beautiful.

How do we get you on Perfect Match?

Are you familiar with Perfect Match?

How I met my husband?

That would be, that would change the whole game.

So let's talk a little bit about your faith and how it influences your approach with relationship counseling.

I think that's beautiful.

I think that's so true.

Like use what we know as a tool and bring people in with it rather than using it against people and scaring.

Yeah.

Right.

So is that going to be a little bit of things that we might find in your book that you wrote called Marriage Ain't for Punks?

First of all, what made you write this book and what is it about?

I love the title, by the way.

That is amazing.