Ada Ferrer

I can't say that.

I think more people than ever are willing to countenance that as a possibility and even as a short-term solution.

Yeah, I do worry about that.

Because I don't think a solution will ever be U.S.

intervention.

I don't think that.

I don't believe that.

Because I'm someone who has studied U.S.-Cuban relations forever, and I know what...

U.S.

invasion and U.S.

intervention and U.S.

meddling, I know that history.

One of the words or one of the phrases that keeps getting used is something about the liberation of Cuba, a free Cuba.

Historically, the U.S.

has not acted in the interest of a free Cuba.

From the 19th century, it tried to impede Cuban independence at every turn.

In the 1820s, when Latin America became independent, it specifically wanted to avoid that for Cuba.

Then, you know, in the mid-19th century, in the 1850s, they supported the government and independent Americans supported invasions of Cuba to liberate it from Spain and then attach it to the U.S.

as slave states, right?

This is when slavery still existed.