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Ada Palmer

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275 total appearances

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Well, not much, as it turns out.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

At least not directly.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Chaos theory was everywhere in the 1990s.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Fractals adorn dorm room posters.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Jurassic Park explained the butterfly effect to moviegoers.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Then chaos theory largely disappeared from public discourse.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Not because it was wrong, the mathematics remains valid, the phenomena real, but because it proved remarkably difficult to apply.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

A recent survey of commonly cited applications by Elisabeth van Nostrand and Alex Altair found that most never received wide usage.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

The theory excels at explaining what cannot be done.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

You cannot make long-range weather predictions.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

You cannot predict where exactly a turbulent eddy will form.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

You cannot forecast the specific trajectory of a chaotic system beyond a certain time horizon.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

These are important insights, but they are negative and thus non-sexy.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

They tell us about the limits of prediction, not how to make it better.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

So if chaos theory mostly tells us what we cannot do with turbulent systems, what uses it for understanding history?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

The answer comes from the one domain where chaos theory achieved genuine practical success.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Weather forecasting.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

But not in the way anyone expected.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

In the 1940s, when computers first made numerical weather prediction possible, the approach was deterministic.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Ada Palmer: Inventing the Renaissance" by Martin Sustrik

Measure current conditions, run the physics forward, predict the future.