Adam Brown

So particle physics, I mean, there were some questions around the edges, but this model that we wrote down in the 70s and into the 80s, basically completely cleaned up that field.

We wish to build bigger, more powerful particle accelerators to find stuff that

that goes beyond that.

But basically we won and that makes it difficult to immediately, if you get too good, then it's hard to know where to push from there.

That's as far as particle physics is concerned.

Well, the problem with particle colliders is in some sense that they got too expensive.

And...

CERN is tens of billions of dollars, a small number of tens of billions of dollars to run this thing.

You can build AGI with that money.

Right, yeah.

I mean, it's super interesting how everybody talks about how academics can't possibly compete with the big labs.

But the cost of CERN is larger than the cost of big model training runs, by a lot.

So that's just academics pooling their money.

So that's an interesting fact.

But

Yeah, they got so expensive that it's difficult to persuade people to buy a new one for us that's even bigger.

It's a very natural thing to do, to build an atom smasher that just smashes things together to higher energy.

It's a very natural thing to see what comes out.

People were perhaps somewhat disappointed with the output of the LHC, where it made the Higgs, which was great, and we found it, but we also expected it to be there.

And it didn't make anything...