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Adam Brown

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

somewhat counterproductive but like just just outside the horizon just grab some of that hawking radiation and just drag it a long way away from the black hole and then and then feast on it or do whatever it is you want to do with it and in that way you could what's called mine a black hole you could speed up the evaporation of a black hole by a huge factor so in fact that the lifetime would no longer go like the mass cubed like it does with just unaided hawking radiation but would scale like just a mass so considerably faster uh for a

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

large black hole.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So this was these proposals, and what I had a somewhat sort of pessimistic contribution to the story, which is that the existing proposals did not work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

They didn't work to speed it up, and in fact, you can't speed it up, you can't get down that m cubed down to m. You can't in fact get anything less than m cubed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It still scales like the mass cubed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

The length of time you need to wait to get all the energy out of a black hole still scales like the mass cubed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

What goes wrong is ultimately a material science problem.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So this scoop that comes down really close to the horizon.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Now, from one point of view, that's just like a space elevator, albeit a very high performance space elevator.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Space elevators, you'll remember, are these ideas for how we might get things off the surface of the Earth without using rockets.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And the idea is that you have some massive orbiting object, sort of very long way away beyond geostationary orbit, and then you dangle off that rope down to the surface of the Earth, and then you can essentially just climb up the rope.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

to get out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

That's the space elevator idea.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And already around Earth, it's hitting pretty hard material science constraints.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So if you want to make a space elevator, the trouble with making a space elevator isn't so much supporting the payload that you're trying to have climb up.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It is merely just the rope supporting its own weight.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Because each bit of the rope needs to support not only its own weight, but also the weight of all of the rope beneath it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So the tension that you require keeps getting more and more and more as you go up.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

At the bottom, there is no tension effect.