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Adam Brown

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Most chemical reactions are pretty inefficient.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

You burn gasoline and you extract, as a function of the rest mass of the gasoline that you started with, you extract one part in 10 billion of energy from the gasoline that you started with.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So that's bad from the point of view, you know, you have MC squared worth in a gallon of gasoline, you've got a full MC squared worth of energy in there, and you can only get out one part in 10 to the 10.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

That's a pretty unsatisfactory...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

situation, roughly speaking the reason that all chemical processes are so inefficient is that they only address the electromagnetic energy in the electrons, and a very small fraction of the electromagnetic energy in atoms is stored in the electromagnetic interaction between the electrons and between the nucleus and the electrons.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Most of it is stored in the nucleus itself, in the strong nuclear forces, and particularly in the rest mass of the protons and neutrons that constitute it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So you can do much better if instead of doing electromagnetic interactions you use nuclear interactions that can probe the energy in turning protons into neutrons.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

That's why nuclear power plants are so much more efficient on a per-mass basis than chemical

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

power plants like coal plants or gas plants, because you're getting a much higher fraction.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Best case scenario, you're getting one part in 10 to the 3 or 10 to the 4 of the rest mass of the uranium that you start with.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

You're extracting as energy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

But even there, even in that process, it's still only absolute best one part in 1,000 of the rest mass.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And the reason is that you are...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Using where much more of the energy is stored, which is the strong and weak interactions between the protons and the neutrons, so much more is available to you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

But still, at the end of whatever the process you finish with there, there's a number that'll be conserved.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And that is what's called the baryon number.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So it's the total number of protons plus the total number of neutrons.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

You can transmute protons into neutrons or vice versa in nuclear processes, which is part of the reason there's so much more...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

use much more better energy than things that just affect the chemistry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

But still, most of the energy is stored in the rest mass of the protons and the neutrons.