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Adam Brown

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

is given by the surface area, and yet I also gave you a way to make it scale like the volume.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So eventually, if I make the region big enough, the amount of information in that volume will be bigger than the bound that I just said.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Therefore, I've ruled out Hawking's and Bekenstein's bound.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

What goes wrong with that thought experiment

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

is that eventually if I make a big enough pile of hard drives, the whole pile of hard drives will undergo gravitational collapse and form a black hole.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Yeah, you have to run that calculation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

But if you do run the calculation, it turns out that it's nowhere near.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It wasn't close.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Yeah, they don't just balance each other out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

If I take a...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

you know, an online shopping website and I buy a bunch of Western Digital hard drives and I calculate the information storage capacity of those and compare it to the area of a black hole, you know, figure out when the pressure in the hard drive would be enough to stop it collapsing to form a black hole.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It is nowhere close.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It will make a black hole way, way, way before it comes close to violating Bekenstein or King Pound.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So that's the information storage in black holes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

The reason you know that that's also the information storage bound for anything, not just black holes, is that if you had something that wasn't a black hole that had more information than that in a given region, and you just added matter, eventually that thing itself would collapse to form a black hole.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And so it couldn't be the case, just logically, that it had more information than the black hole it'll tend to.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It's been extremely important for our understanding of quantum gravity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It's perhaps the central fact that we know about quantum gravity is that the information scales with the area.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And that is a hint.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

That fact that was known since the 70s was a big hint that became very influential later on.