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Adam Brown

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And so I'm not so bothered.

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Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

I would say that that's,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

I'm not going to tell you what utility function you should place on the wave function, but Born is.

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Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

There's the Born rule in quantum mechanics, and that tells you that you shouldn't just say if it's there in one branch, that's just as good as anything else.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Born's rule, which is one of the foundational rules in quantum mechanics, tells you how much to care about each branch.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

You don't care about them equally, and it says that...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

The correct way to calculate the expectation value of anything is to calculate its value in each branch and weight those branches by the square of the amplitude of the wave function, which is some particular quantity, and then add together all of those different answers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So that's a linear answer, which is to say that the total utility of the universe is the sum of the utility in each of these branches, appropriately weighted by Born's rule.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

So if that's true,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

You should hope to make our branch as good as possible just because whatever is going on in the other branch, the total utility is just the sum of what's going on in that branch and what's going on in our branch.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

And so you should try as hard as you can to make our branches as great as possible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Nevertheless, I do kind of understand that you might have a portfolio theory that

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

seems to be inconsistent with Born's rule, but is somehow intuitive in which somehow it's not just a linear function on these universes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Yeah, I think there's a number of ways to think about this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

I think in part people's intuition is maybe formed in cases like

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

extinction where if you have an animal that's going extinct you know if half of the animals get wiped out that's somehow less bad than if both halves of the animals gets wiped out but that's because they really are going to interact in the future and there's there's you know the possibility of the of the you know those don't have non-overlapping future light cones that the two populations of some possibly extinct animal um

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It's also the case that this is a pretty... Like, Born's Rule, narrowly defined, does not really have anything to say about this, how one should calculate the total utility.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

It's just more of a sort of the natural utility measure that would come out of this.

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Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Particularly when you get to the cosmological multiverse, I think that these are very difficult questions to answer.

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Adam Brown โ€“ How Future Civilizations Could Change The Laws of Physics

Your intuition that two, you know,