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Adam Kinzinger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1915 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

But hopefully this is a moment where Europe can step up and be like, you know what, America, we'd love to have you. You're very important. We don't need you. Rheinmetall, NAMO, all of our other European defense agencies, they're going to make enough stuff for Ukraine. And we'll stop the Russians. And you can basically take your tariffs and leave Europe.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

But hopefully this is a moment where Europe can step up and be like, you know what, America, we'd love to have you. You're very important. We don't need you. Rheinmetall, NAMO, all of our other European defense agencies, they're going to make enough stuff for Ukraine. And we'll stop the Russians. And you can basically take your tariffs and leave Europe.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Yeah, there has been that notion. And honestly, that notion exists in Europe, too. I mean, Europe, they have been paralyzed for 80 years. And this has actually worked to our advantage, right? Because we can write the rules of the road. We get to basically determine what's important for defense. But regardless, Europe has basically kind of gotten paralyzed and relied on the United States.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Yeah, there has been that notion. And honestly, that notion exists in Europe, too. I mean, Europe, they have been paralyzed for 80 years. And this has actually worked to our advantage, right? Because we can write the rules of the road. We get to basically determine what's important for defense. But regardless, Europe has basically kind of gotten paralyzed and relied on the United States.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Yeah, there has been that notion. And honestly, that notion exists in Europe, too. I mean, Europe, they have been paralyzed for 80 years. And this has actually worked to our advantage, right? Because we can write the rules of the road. We get to basically determine what's important for defense. But regardless, Europe has basically kind of gotten paralyzed and relied on the United States.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

And so what happens if they finally do kind of find their cojones and decide that we're going to support Ukraine is, First off, it'd be great for the European defense establishment, because that's atrophied so much. Secondly, it will take a while for it to continue to spin up, but they're leaning forward right now. And Denmark, especially, has made it very clear.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

And so what happens if they finally do kind of find their cojones and decide that we're going to support Ukraine is, First off, it'd be great for the European defense establishment, because that's atrophied so much. Secondly, it will take a while for it to continue to spin up, but they're leaning forward right now. And Denmark, especially, has made it very clear.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

And so what happens if they finally do kind of find their cojones and decide that we're going to support Ukraine is, First off, it'd be great for the European defense establishment, because that's atrophied so much. Secondly, it will take a while for it to continue to spin up, but they're leaning forward right now. And Denmark, especially, has made it very clear.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Like, we're gonna buy the best weapons. If they're not available, we're buying the second best weapons. The key here is speed. That's what they've said. What does that mean for the United States? Look, there are rumors right now that are pretty strong. They're not just internet rumors that Trump plans to announce a withdrawal of all American troops from Europe within the next month.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Like, we're gonna buy the best weapons. If they're not available, we're buying the second best weapons. The key here is speed. That's what they've said. What does that mean for the United States? Look, there are rumors right now that are pretty strong. They're not just internet rumors that Trump plans to announce a withdrawal of all American troops from Europe within the next month.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Like, we're gonna buy the best weapons. If they're not available, we're buying the second best weapons. The key here is speed. That's what they've said. What does that mean for the United States? Look, there are rumors right now that are pretty strong. They're not just internet rumors that Trump plans to announce a withdrawal of all American troops from Europe within the next month.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Now, maybe it doesn't happen, but I honestly won't be surprised if it does. So if Europe steps up and says, fine, we'll do this with Ukraine, I could see Donald Trump pouting, taking his ball, going home and saying, good, obviously you've got Europe all yourself. The point is, though, Like, yes, he has the power to do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Now, maybe it doesn't happen, but I honestly won't be surprised if it does. So if Europe steps up and says, fine, we'll do this with Ukraine, I could see Donald Trump pouting, taking his ball, going home and saying, good, obviously you've got Europe all yourself. The point is, though, Like, yes, he has the power to do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Now, maybe it doesn't happen, but I honestly won't be surprised if it does. So if Europe steps up and says, fine, we'll do this with Ukraine, I could see Donald Trump pouting, taking his ball, going home and saying, good, obviously you've got Europe all yourself. The point is, though, Like, yes, he has the power to do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Not much we can do to stop it, except I think that is going to be seen as a bigger betrayal than Afghanistan. And Joe Biden, which, by the way, he was just executing, honestly, Donald Trump's brilliant negotiation in Afghanistan. Biden went underwater on his numbers after Afghanistan and never recovered. Donald Trump could do the same. But

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Not much we can do to stop it, except I think that is going to be seen as a bigger betrayal than Afghanistan. And Joe Biden, which, by the way, he was just executing, honestly, Donald Trump's brilliant negotiation in Afghanistan. Biden went underwater on his numbers after Afghanistan and never recovered. Donald Trump could do the same. But

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

Not much we can do to stop it, except I think that is going to be seen as a bigger betrayal than Afghanistan. And Joe Biden, which, by the way, he was just executing, honestly, Donald Trump's brilliant negotiation in Afghanistan. Biden went underwater on his numbers after Afghanistan and never recovered. Donald Trump could do the same. But

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

You know, for those looking saying, well, what's the quick answer to that? I'm sorry, there just isn't. We have a system set up where you can really have a voice in two years, and we're just going to have to wait that out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

You know, for those looking saying, well, what's the quick answer to that? I'm sorry, there just isn't. We have a system set up where you can really have a voice in two years, and we're just going to have to wait that out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

You know, for those looking saying, well, what's the quick answer to that? I'm sorry, there just isn't. We have a system set up where you can really have a voice in two years, and we're just going to have to wait that out.