Adam Robinson

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I, by the way, like the, these guys were like one of the most influential, you know, I sort of read for our work. So, um, I worked as a trader at Lehman Brothers for 10 years. The day I arrived in Manhattan, my roommate, Jake Lodwick was building Vimeo on a Dreamweaver instance, baby blue homepage, big letters.

And he's like, I think I'm going to make this thing that shares video with people. I was just like, why would you do that? You know, like they didn't know we, we didn't have smartphones. Like it was, it was 2003 or 2005, no four. Anyway. Um, so, um, That made me want to be an entrepreneur. I was a trader for 10 years.

And he's like, I think I'm going to make this thing that shares video with people. I was just like, why would you do that? You know, like they didn't know we, we didn't have smartphones. Like it was, it was 2003 or 2005, no four. Anyway. Um, so, um, That made me want to be an entrepreneur. I was a trader for 10 years.

And he's like, I think I'm going to make this thing that shares video with people. I was just like, why would you do that? You know, like they didn't know we, we didn't have smartphones. Like it was, it was 2003 or 2005, no four. Anyway. Um, so, um, That made me want to be an entrepreneur. I was a trader for 10 years.

And when you're a trade, when you're like, it's really hard to describe the life, how much of a fucking grind it was. Like I was getting up at four 45 in the morning. Cause the gyms where I had to get to work at six gyms were not open until like five 30 or whatever. I was running across the Brooklyn bridge on the coldest day of the winter at four 45 in the morning in Manhattan every single day.

And when you're a trade, when you're like, it's really hard to describe the life, how much of a fucking grind it was. Like I was getting up at four 45 in the morning. Cause the gyms where I had to get to work at six gyms were not open until like five 30 or whatever. I was running across the Brooklyn bridge on the coldest day of the winter at four 45 in the morning in Manhattan every single day.

And when you're a trade, when you're like, it's really hard to describe the life, how much of a fucking grind it was. Like I was getting up at four 45 in the morning. Cause the gyms where I had to get to work at six gyms were not open until like five 30 or whatever. I was running across the Brooklyn bridge on the coldest day of the winter at four 45 in the morning in Manhattan every single day.

Cause I wanted to work out. Uh, and then, you know, putting a tie on, like getting on the subway, like it was just brutal. Um, And then financial crisis happened. I had a good year and then a bad year. And then I got fired because I lost some money, a lot of money at once, but I've saved some dough. And I was like, okay, what do I do now? I don't want to do that anymore. You know?

Cause I wanted to work out. Uh, and then, you know, putting a tie on, like getting on the subway, like it was just brutal. Um, And then financial crisis happened. I had a good year and then a bad year. And then I got fired because I lost some money, a lot of money at once, but I've saved some dough. And I was like, okay, what do I do now? I don't want to do that anymore. You know?

Cause I wanted to work out. Uh, and then, you know, putting a tie on, like getting on the subway, like it was just brutal. Um, And then financial crisis happened. I had a good year and then a bad year. And then I got fired because I lost some money, a lot of money at once, but I've saved some dough. And I was like, okay, what do I do now? I don't want to do that anymore. You know?

And I think I've got enough money to like transition this to something else. And if not, I'll just go get another, I go back. Right. Like, but I was on the clock and yeah, You read 4-Hour Workweek after you've lived that life for 10 years. And it's like he was writing to me. He said that he was writing to somebody, one of his friends who was an investment banker.

And I think I've got enough money to like transition this to something else. And if not, I'll just go get another, I go back. Right. Like, but I was on the clock and yeah, You read 4-Hour Workweek after you've lived that life for 10 years. And it's like he was writing to me. He said that he was writing to somebody, one of his friends who was an investment banker.

And I think I've got enough money to like transition this to something else. And if not, I'll just go get another, I go back. Right. Like, but I was on the clock and yeah, You read 4-Hour Workweek after you've lived that life for 10 years. And it's like he was writing to me. He said that he was writing to somebody, one of his friends who was an investment banker.

And it's like this idea that if you're making a lot of money and you're living that way, that's not actually good. making far less money for far, far, far less output is actually a much better position to be in. And like, there's a lot of ways to control your expenses.

And it's like this idea that if you're making a lot of money and you're living that way, that's not actually good. making far less money for far, far, far less output is actually a much better position to be in. And like, there's a lot of ways to control your expenses.

And it's like this idea that if you're making a lot of money and you're living that way, that's not actually good. making far less money for far, far, far less output is actually a much better position to be in. And like, there's a lot of ways to control your expenses.

And then you have this free time to do, you know, whatever you want, presumably, you know, just the way he thought about time versus money was like a massive paradigm shift. And then I read rework and I was like, holy shit, this is it. You know, like this is the direction that I want to go in. And then my first startup, basically ended up being a rework business.

And then you have this free time to do, you know, whatever you want, presumably, you know, just the way he thought about time versus money was like a massive paradigm shift. And then I read rework and I was like, holy shit, this is it. You know, like this is the direction that I want to go in. And then my first startup, basically ended up being a rework business.

And then you have this free time to do, you know, whatever you want, presumably, you know, just the way he thought about time versus money was like a massive paradigm shift. And then I read rework and I was like, holy shit, this is it. You know, like this is the direction that I want to go in. And then my first startup, basically ended up being a rework business.

It was like 3 million ARR, 50% profit. I had two co-founders. But it was like an email marketing business and the customer count was shrinking by a percent a month. But it's a low-term product category as net revenue expansion because you're charging people based on their list size. And they don't switch that much because it's where the data is being stored.