Adam Serwer

And sometimes we don't even verify.

Sometimes we see something and we assume it's real and we don't check because we're people and we're just scrolling our phones like everybody else.

Yeah, no, I think that's true.

Distrust of yourself, distrust of what you're seeing, it creates an atmosphere of unreality in which you are not sure what's happening.

And I think it makes it easier for people to deal with cognitive dissonance in the sense of when someone that they like does something bad, they can dismiss it as somehow fake.

And obviously that cognitive tendency already existed as a natural part of human nature, but it's a little different

when the ability to just make your own reality is so widely available.

Coming up... The thing that has been most effective in standing up to Trump is ordinary people joining with other ordinary people to oppose what they're doing.

Look, these people come from a lot of different backgrounds, a lot of different walks of life.

But what they share is a commitment to protecting their neighbors.

And their neighbors are their neighbors, you know, no matter where they were born, whether they were born in Mogadishu or Minneapolis.

These people are my neighbors and I'm going to protect them.

And I found that, you know, sort of profoundly moving because it's such a universalist sentiment.

It really reminds me of sort of the best of American ideals.

A big chunk of the people in Minneapolis, St.

Paul are in hiding, not necessarily because they're undocumented, but because they're afraid of being racially profiled by immigration agents who are not going to

treat them with any kind of respect and could possibly, you know, these encounters, people have gotten hurt or killed.

And they're doing it because they care deeply about the people around them.

I mean, look, this is organized, nonviolent opposition to a federal government that they feel is oppressing them or oppressing their neighbors.

And so they are opposing it.