Adam

Yeah, but I'm confused because the Salt Typhoon ones was about Cisco routers.

It's just like, what?

I think, in theory, the reason it matters if you have one, Andrew, is that you are sort of inherently plugged into your telecom company's network.

And that is who all of these attacks were against, were getting into telecom companies' networks.

I don't know quite enough about this whole thing.

And also, watch...

This is me predicting the future, but watch Oracle launch a new line of US-based routers.

Wait.

Oh, my God.

I didn't even think about that.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

This is not a thing that's happened.

They shouldn't, but... I really don't know enough about this, but it's always been my understanding that a big part of what routers are doing are assembling these packets that are going out.

And so if they're putting... A router with malware on it can put stuff in a packet that can make it pretty deep inside a network.

Yeah.

That is like the most middle schooler friendly way I can describe network communication.

Is that Cisco?

Yeah, they rent it from their telecom.

I just... I don't know, man.