Aditya Chakrabortty

Because, you know, you've been around for some time.

You could have said all this stuff.

Right.

I mean, that is particularly deluded, I think.

That's not what the public told us on Thursdays.

They want 10 more years of Keir Starmer.

But I think the really refreshing contrast, the really interesting contrast is between Keir Starmer and Zach Polanski, the leader of the Greens.

And Polanski basically says a lot of stuff that Labour people would like to say.

He says stuff like, what's happening to girls in an outrage?

He says Trump wouldn't deal with him.

He says we shouldn't be racist.

Basic things.

And I think there are an awful lot of Labour activists and Labour MPs who think, actually, I'd quite like to say that, but we're in a party where you can't really say that.

The reform vote is such an interesting vote.

People tend to think of the reform voter as being this...

red-faced, angry guy who turns up at the back of the Question Time audience and he starts heckling them about Brexit or whatever.

And actually, the reform voting base is a lot more complicated than that.

Like there is maybe, I don't know, one in five, one in four of the reform voters are kind of the people in post-industrial towns who feel like politics has been failing them for decades.

And they're not wrong to think that.

Yeah.