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Now, how do you think the governor has done on this issue? It does strike me that he's been that we've made a lot of progress that we're not seeing the results of is the generational failure. But like, you know, pushing San Francisco to build a bunch more housing. Same thing down here in L.A. Where do you think it's working and where do you think you need to go further?

So one challenge that I see is because we have such an affordability crisis, whenever you're talking about new projects, inevitably the discussion turns on what exactly is the kind of housing in that specific project. When

So one challenge that I see is because we have such an affordability crisis, whenever you're talking about new projects, inevitably the discussion turns on what exactly is the kind of housing in that specific project. When

The evidence suggests that the best way we can, because the problem is so deep, really micromanaging individual projects, we just say, build whatever you want, wherever you want. We need a ton more. But that faces blowback because then critics from the left will say, you're building units for richer people.

The evidence suggests that the best way we can, because the problem is so deep, really micromanaging individual projects, we just say, build whatever you want, wherever you want. We need a ton more. But that faces blowback because then critics from the left will say, you're building units for richer people.

You're building, you're not building units for the working class, even though allowing those kinds of builds will bring down rents elsewhere. How do you think about that?

You're building, you're not building units for the working class, even though allowing those kinds of builds will bring down rents elsewhere. How do you think about that?

Do you think the governor has powers that the current governor is not using to the fullest to step in when there are decisions to, like, for example, in the Bay Area, when a court ruled because of some nimbyism that a bunch of college kids had to lose their acceptance letters? Do you think the governor could have intervened there in a way that he didn't?

Do you think the governor has powers that the current governor is not using to the fullest to step in when there are decisions to, like, for example, in the Bay Area, when a court ruled because of some nimbyism that a bunch of college kids had to lose their acceptance letters? Do you think the governor could have intervened there in a way that he didn't?

So with the politics of this race, what did you learn from the race against Adam Schiff that you'd bring to this statewide race?

So with the politics of this race, what did you learn from the race against Adam Schiff that you'd bring to this statewide race?

Yeah. I mean, some of it was just around name ID competing in a state that is massive, that requires such a huge amount of money.

Yeah. I mean, some of it was just around name ID competing in a state that is massive, that requires such a huge amount of money.

But you understand what I'm getting at here, which is you're getting in the race early. There are rumors that the vice president may get in the race later. I saw some reporting that you said that the vice president might clear the field. And I was surprised to see that one of your advisors apparently told CNN that you wouldn't run against Kamala. Is that true?

But you understand what I'm getting at here, which is you're getting in the race early. There are rumors that the vice president may get in the race later. I saw some reporting that you said that the vice president might clear the field. And I was surprised to see that one of your advisors apparently told CNN that you wouldn't run against Kamala. Is that true?

But I'm like, honestly, like what I expect from as someone who admires and respects you as a leader. and a political figure, I'm surprised you're not saying, I don't care what Kamala Harris does, I will be the best governor. Like, that's what I don't, that's what's confusing to me.

But I'm like, honestly, like what I expect from as someone who admires and respects you as a leader. and a political figure, I'm surprised you're not saying, I don't care what Kamala Harris does, I will be the best governor. Like, that's what I don't, that's what's confusing to me.

Like, isn't the person that's supposed to lead this big fractious state, the person who says Kamala can get in, who I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna, if she gets in, I'll beat her?

Like, isn't the person that's supposed to lead this big fractious state, the person who says Kamala can get in, who I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna, if she gets in, I'll beat her?

Well, the way that you would say it, I have to find the right district for my vibe, but.