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Anything you'd add to that, Royce, about from your 15 years now of experience at school? How things should stay the same and or change?

Anything you'd add to that, Royce, about from your 15 years now of experience at school? How things should stay the same and or change?

One of the coolest things about what you do is that you get to have these ongoing relationships with students beyond just a couple of years that you're with them in the classroom.

One of the coolest things about what you do is that you get to have these ongoing relationships with students beyond just a couple of years that you're with them in the classroom.

I've talked to a couple of your former students before this, and they all say the same thing, which is they still call you for advice, for commiseration, for just to catch up that you have relationships with them for a long period of time. What do people most commonly call you with looking to you for sage advice or someone to talk to?

I've talked to a couple of your former students before this, and they all say the same thing, which is they still call you for advice, for commiseration, for just to catch up that you have relationships with them for a long period of time. What do people most commonly call you with looking to you for sage advice or someone to talk to?

Like, what are the most common reasons that you continue to get those calls beyond just having a great relationship with the person? And maybe that's the right answer.

Like, what are the most common reasons that you continue to get those calls beyond just having a great relationship with the person? And maybe that's the right answer.

I guess that's why you're such a great long term partnership. Yeah, that's right. Since I've interviewed you both before, I've already got to ask you my traditional closing questions. I have to come up with a new one this time.

I guess that's why you're such a great long term partnership. Yeah, that's right. Since I've interviewed you both before, I've already got to ask you my traditional closing questions. I have to come up with a new one this time.

And what I thought that would be fun is to ask each of you what your favorite case has been to teach your students and maybe tell us a little bit about that case and why you like it.

And what I thought that would be fun is to ask each of you what your favorite case has been to teach your students and maybe tell us a little bit about that case and why you like it.

Yeah. I love it. It makes me wonder if there's anything that when people like me ask you questions about this whole domain that you're surprised they don't ask about. What's something, if anything, that comes to mind that I haven't asked about at all today that's like essential or interesting to you having spent more time in this space than just about anybody else?

Yeah. I love it. It makes me wonder if there's anything that when people like me ask you questions about this whole domain that you're surprised they don't ask about. What's something, if anything, that comes to mind that I haven't asked about at all today that's like essential or interesting to you having spent more time in this space than just about anybody else?

Is it perceived as low status?

Is it perceived as low status?

Not everybody's comfortable with that. I have learned so much from you both. That's my question too, is from multiple perspectives, from the investor perspective, from the searcher perspective, I think you learned so much running a business that you can't learn in any other way. And obviously your work has done this. Hopefully conversations like this one get more people curious.

Not everybody's comfortable with that. I have learned so much from you both. That's my question too, is from multiple perspectives, from the investor perspective, from the searcher perspective, I think you learned so much running a business that you can't learn in any other way. And obviously your work has done this. Hopefully conversations like this one get more people curious.

I encourage people to read your book, to listen to your podcast, to submerse themselves in the ideas that you've accumulated over 15 years together. Thanks so much for doing this with me again and for your time and for everything that you've done. So much fun to do it 10 years later. And I guess I'll see you in another 10.

I encourage people to read your book, to listen to your podcast, to submerse themselves in the ideas that you've accumulated over 15 years together. Thanks so much for doing this with me again and for your time and for everything that you've done. So much fun to do it 10 years later. And I guess I'll see you in another 10.