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On TV all the time, you're, as I've heard you say before, maybe on John Oliver, even if you want to escape and watch a Tonight Show, you're going to then see jokes about yourself endlessly. There was really no escape at all from that. I wonder during that period, is your family, the core, the only place you can go and feel remotely like yourself?

You weren't?

You weren't?

You weren't?

So what was the reasoning behind that?

So what was the reasoning behind that?

So what was the reasoning behind that?

Okay. So that he wouldn't be called in.

Okay. So that he wouldn't be called in.

Okay. So that he wouldn't be called in.

Yeah. And he was a sophomore in college. He was. Yeah. And that was rough for him, I assume.

Yeah. And he was a sophomore in college. He was. Yeah. And that was rough for him, I assume.

Yeah. And he was a sophomore in college. He was. Yeah. And that was rough for him, I assume.

Yeah. Well, we talked earlier when you just got in here, it was like, There's your own guilt and then there's the guilt of having affected the other people in your life who you love so much and kind of gotten them sucked into the whole thing.

Yeah. Well, we talked earlier when you just got in here, it was like, There's your own guilt and then there's the guilt of having affected the other people in your life who you love so much and kind of gotten them sucked into the whole thing.

Yeah. Well, we talked earlier when you just got in here, it was like, There's your own guilt and then there's the guilt of having affected the other people in your life who you love so much and kind of gotten them sucked into the whole thing.

Right. One of the most profound things I heard you say was, I think it was on John Oliver. He said, you know, at any point, did you decide to change your name? And your response was, did Bill Clinton have to change his name? Because when he asked that question, I was like, yeah.

Right. One of the most profound things I heard you say was, I think it was on John Oliver. He said, you know, at any point, did you decide to change your name? And your response was, did Bill Clinton have to change his name? Because when he asked that question, I was like, yeah.

Right. One of the most profound things I heard you say was, I think it was on John Oliver. He said, you know, at any point, did you decide to change your name? And your response was, did Bill Clinton have to change his name? Because when he asked that question, I was like, yeah.

go by whatever fucking schlong schlonger uh yeah that's exactly the name i would have chosen but i was i was on that train of thought right your answer exposed to me how my first line of thinking will be one that was pretty much raised in a patriarchy that that's what i i don't even consider that like of course bill clinton didn't have to change his name