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But what has really happened in your and my lifetime is that what happened to you, there were only four news outlets that people watch. There was X amount of newspapers in the country. So you took up so much space that the person who made a weird comment on their trip to Africa- They would have never been put in the paper to get shamed.

But what has really happened in your and my lifetime is that what happened to you, there were only four news outlets that people watch. There was X amount of newspapers in the country. So you took up so much space that the person who made a weird comment on their trip to Africa- They would have never been put in the paper to get shamed.

But what has really happened in your and my lifetime is that what happened to you, there were only four news outlets that people watch. There was X amount of newspapers in the country. So you took up so much space that the person who made a weird comment on their trip to Africa- They would have never been put in the paper to get shamed.

So for a long period, most people weren't getting the kind of firsthand public shaming, right? There wasn't really an outlet for it.

So for a long period, most people weren't getting the kind of firsthand public shaming, right? There wasn't really an outlet for it.

So for a long period, most people weren't getting the kind of firsthand public shaming, right? There wasn't really an outlet for it.

But now there is an outlet for almost anyone to get publicly shamed because there's infinite number of web addresses, basically, and there's social media and there's a trillion news networks. So now many, many people can be publicly shamed.

But now there is an outlet for almost anyone to get publicly shamed because there's infinite number of web addresses, basically, and there's social media and there's a trillion news networks. So now many, many people can be publicly shamed.

But now there is an outlet for almost anyone to get publicly shamed because there's infinite number of web addresses, basically, and there's social media and there's a trillion news networks. So now many, many people can be publicly shamed.

Yes. The purpose gossip provided was when we lived in hundred member groups, they were very egalitarian because one man getting power, if he started abusing that power as the chief, three other men could overthrow him. At any time, in our early days, that chief didn't have a police force. It didn't have a military. So at all times, that person could be overthrown pretty easily.

Yes. The purpose gossip provided was when we lived in hundred member groups, they were very egalitarian because one man getting power, if he started abusing that power as the chief, three other men could overthrow him. At any time, in our early days, that chief didn't have a police force. It didn't have a military. So at all times, that person could be overthrown pretty easily.

Yes. The purpose gossip provided was when we lived in hundred member groups, they were very egalitarian because one man getting power, if he started abusing that power as the chief, three other men could overthrow him. At any time, in our early days, that chief didn't have a police force. It didn't have a military. So at all times, that person could be overthrown pretty easily.

And the mechanism by which everyone would evaluate whether that person should be overthrown was gossip. That's exactly how you build an alliance to make sure someone's not being tyrannical. But then you get apparatuses like military, state police. And now we're not going to just gossip our way into a new president. It doesn't really work that way anymore. But it is hardwired into us.

And the mechanism by which everyone would evaluate whether that person should be overthrown was gossip. That's exactly how you build an alliance to make sure someone's not being tyrannical. But then you get apparatuses like military, state police. And now we're not going to just gossip our way into a new president. It doesn't really work that way anymore. But it is hardwired into us.

And the mechanism by which everyone would evaluate whether that person should be overthrown was gossip. That's exactly how you build an alliance to make sure someone's not being tyrannical. But then you get apparatuses like military, state police. And now we're not going to just gossip our way into a new president. It doesn't really work that way anymore. But it is hardwired into us.

No one should feel guilty that they enjoy gossip. We are designed to gossip so we can regulate these little groups. I think it's helpful to first recognize like, oh yeah, I'm inclined to gossip the same way I'm inclined to eat 44 Snickers bars. I'm hardwired to load up on sugar when that fruit's in season. And I just have to know that about my body so that I can take some actions.

No one should feel guilty that they enjoy gossip. We are designed to gossip so we can regulate these little groups. I think it's helpful to first recognize like, oh yeah, I'm inclined to gossip the same way I'm inclined to eat 44 Snickers bars. I'm hardwired to load up on sugar when that fruit's in season. And I just have to know that about my body so that I can take some actions.

No one should feel guilty that they enjoy gossip. We are designed to gossip so we can regulate these little groups. I think it's helpful to first recognize like, oh yeah, I'm inclined to gossip the same way I'm inclined to eat 44 Snickers bars. I'm hardwired to load up on sugar when that fruit's in season. And I just have to know that about my body so that I can take some actions.

Oh, me too. I think the goal should be 100% to evolve away from it. Right. Because I think we can see in many, many ways that it's ultimately destructive. It's no longer servicing the purpose that it was.