Agent Matt Sluss

There's a saying we have, and it probably applies in a lot of areas in the South and Midwest, it's called poor-mouthing. People always talk about how bad they got it. They don't want to seem ostentatious or whatever. And Hoffman seemed to poor-mouth a lot when this was going on.

There's a saying we have, and it probably applies in a lot of areas in the South and Midwest, it's called poor-mouthing. People always talk about how bad they got it. They don't want to seem ostentatious or whatever. And Hoffman seemed to poor-mouth a lot when this was going on.

There's a saying we have, and it probably applies in a lot of areas in the South and Midwest, it's called poor-mouthing. People always talk about how bad they got it. They don't want to seem ostentatious or whatever. And Hoffman seemed to poor-mouth a lot when this was going on.

Like I said, she had a very vigorous defense.

Like I said, she had a very vigorous defense.

Like I said, she had a very vigorous defense.

her followers would write her checks gladly to pay for her defense. So it could have come from there, but a lot of it had to come from somewhere else. I saw all these people who had died and there were life insurance policies and wills and so on, but they were spread out over enough time

her followers would write her checks gladly to pay for her defense. So it could have come from there, but a lot of it had to come from somewhere else. I saw all these people who had died and there were life insurance policies and wills and so on, but they were spread out over enough time

her followers would write her checks gladly to pay for her defense. So it could have come from there, but a lot of it had to come from somewhere else. I saw all these people who had died and there were life insurance policies and wills and so on, but they were spread out over enough time

that she would have had the opportunity to hide that money, to convert it into cash or gold or whatever you wanted to. You try to convert it into something, and that's what I believe probably happened.

that she would have had the opportunity to hide that money, to convert it into cash or gold or whatever you wanted to. You try to convert it into something, and that's what I believe probably happened.

that she would have had the opportunity to hide that money, to convert it into cash or gold or whatever you wanted to. You try to convert it into something, and that's what I believe probably happened.

And there were a lot of dead ends. Because one of the things that happened, as I recall, she kept going back and amending her bankruptcy schedules. Because normally, once you file, you file, and that's it. The bankruptcy moves forward.

And there were a lot of dead ends. Because one of the things that happened, as I recall, she kept going back and amending her bankruptcy schedules. Because normally, once you file, you file, and that's it. The bankruptcy moves forward.

And there were a lot of dead ends. Because one of the things that happened, as I recall, she kept going back and amending her bankruptcy schedules. Because normally, once you file, you file, and that's it. The bankruptcy moves forward.

And the problem is when you try to rush into cases, there's only so much you can do. I was actually set to, I had it approved and everything. I was going to travel to the island of Montserrat in the Caribbean. Hoffman had a, it was her boyfriend or fiance at the time or something like that, that was in med school down there.

And the problem is when you try to rush into cases, there's only so much you can do. I was actually set to, I had it approved and everything. I was going to travel to the island of Montserrat in the Caribbean. Hoffman had a, it was her boyfriend or fiance at the time or something like that, that was in med school down there.

And the problem is when you try to rush into cases, there's only so much you can do. I was actually set to, I had it approved and everything. I was going to travel to the island of Montserrat in the Caribbean. Hoffman had a, it was her boyfriend or fiance at the time or something like that, that was in med school down there.

We believed that she had transferred a lot of the stuff to him, a lot of the property. So I wanted to go interview him, and we were going to subpoena him to the grand jury. Because loyalty does go a long way, but when you're sitting in front of a grand jury or in court, and that willingness to lie for someone suddenly starts dissipating pretty quickly.

We believed that she had transferred a lot of the stuff to him, a lot of the property. So I wanted to go interview him, and we were going to subpoena him to the grand jury. Because loyalty does go a long way, but when you're sitting in front of a grand jury or in court, and that willingness to lie for someone suddenly starts dissipating pretty quickly.