Aideen Finnegan

And how did you come to work there?

I can imagine that that's really key for people who have no confidence ringing up.

bank or some other financial institution.

And do you think that people have it in their head that Mab's is just for, oh, it's people from very difficult backgrounds or low socioeconomic circumstances, but you actually deal with quite a range of people.

And then the cost of...

Disentangling your life from.

Hard, hard relate, Gwen.

Yeah.

The reduced earning around that time is very stressful.

That is such a big albatross around your neck.

Why do people avoid tackling it then when that is the burden of it?

Yeah, I put my hands up there.

Yeah, absolutely.

I like the way as well you said that it's a story because that depersonalizes it a little bit, doesn't it?

You're one step removed from it.

This isn't your shame or your fault.

This is the story of what happens when the money comes in.

So walk me through then the process then and what you're kind of guiding people through in that scenario.

Well, funny you should say that.

Let me say that if anyone's listening to this and going, I'd never do that.