Ailbhe Rea

Yes, they could take part in a debate just to make it more interesting.

Well, I think it is more that, to be honest.

They say the same thing to me and I'm just like, yeah, yeah, okay.

not well with women's plp so i revealed these kind of text messages that are going around on the whatsapp group that the labor women have and there was they were absolutely furious of course they all interestingly assumed that it was a man and were saying things like you know a period of silence from our male colleagues would be welcome especially at this point and

just getting very very angry and also discussing this whole dynamic of obviously labor infamously has never elected a female leader and why is that and there was some talk of well it's also it's kind of um women's self-hatred is one of them they talk about internalized misogyny um but also just the fact that women get a really really hard time in these contests and then

They always come bottom every single time.

It's a consistent trend.

So why would anyone put themselves forward at this point?

Obviously, this is even more a kind of particular dynamic where everyone knows Andy Burnham is going to win.

So it's even more pointless to go through that pain to put yourself forward.

But yeah, the women were absolutely furious.

And that women were repeatedly overlooked for jobs in Number 10 as well was a big theme.

I think that, yeah...

Sorry, carry on.

Yeah, that was wildly optimistic of you, it turns out, because the chaos is not over.

In fact, it's intensifying.

It's all a bit of a mess.

And I think, you know, several weeks ago, I did hear kind of this idea.

It was never kind of seriously considered or taken seriously.

But this idea of should we just suspend collective responsibility?