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Aisha Roscoe

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Reporter Lori Stern has been talking to us about Walt, a student in St.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Paul, Minnesota, who has a special education label called Emotional or Behavioral Disorders, known as EBD.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Students labeled EBD tend to spend more time in their own separate classrooms than kids with other disabilities do.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

So one of the key questions is, how does separating out these kids affect their future?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Lori, you met Walt in an EBD classroom his junior year, and he agreed to let you check in on him during what he hoped would be his final year in high school.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And he basically said he wanted to be heard, which is a beautiful thing.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

What did checking in on him look like?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And as we know, he had a lot of catching up to do since he was really behind in his credits that he needed to graduate.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And maybe an example of why he had the EBD label.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Okay, so emotions ran high.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

I mean, this is a teenage boy with a lot of, you know, testosterone.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

I mean, people get worked up, but no one was hurt.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

So Mr. K is seeing growth in Walt because a lot of this comes down to impulse control, right?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Like, and especially for teenagers, you can be very impulsive and not see kind of the bigger picture.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And it seemed like he was doing well.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

So does this mean that he couldn't finish high school, that he had to drop out?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

So nothing has really changed for kids with EBD?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And how did that go?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Well, it sounds like mainstreaming, like being in the classes with other kids who weren't EBD, like that that made all the difference for him.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Why wasn't that something that could have happened for Walt?