Ajay Kulkarni

I like that story.

Cause I feel like that is something you don't know you have until it's tested.

Which is the, Hey, I didn't even know I had it at Jay.

I think it's some combination of grit, but also just like an FU mentality.

I mean, in the tech industry, that's like 100 years.

That is.

Something like that, yeah.

I'll tell you what's been the theme in my career is that when I was on Wall Street,

It was a really interesting, like an eye-opening experience because I was around some really smart people.

I was like, I was a quant around people who all had PhDs.

Some had multiple PhDs, really hardworking.

It wasn't like, it was a meritocracy.

It wasn't like a lot of, you know, FaceTime.

I mean, you would work, but it was, you know, and I was paid really well, but I didn't like it.

I didn't like it.

And I was like, you know what?

I feel like this is not who I am.

And I felt like I was someone who needed to build and needed to create.

And I actually remember going soul searching like, hey, should I go into consumer packaged goods?

At one point, I thought about starting a record label because I'm like, I like music and I like business.