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Ajeya Cotra

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
626 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

The impressive thing here is that correcting the estimates of two parameters, compute growth and algorithmic progress, produce a forecast which would have seemed valuable and prescient six years later.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Even correcting one parameter, algorithmic progress, would have gotten it very close.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

In that sense, the history of bio-anchors is a white pill for forecasting, and an antidote to the epistemic nihilism of the positions above.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

But its bottom line was still wrong.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Even if you do almost everything correctly, invent new terms that become load-bearing pillars of the field, defeat your critics' main objections, and demonstrate a remarkably clear model of exactly how to think about a difficult subject, misestimating one parameter can ruin the whole project.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

This is why you do a sensitivity analysis, and Kotra did this at least in spirit, talked about which parameters were most important, gave people widgets that they could use to play around with.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

But it didn't work as well as she might have hoped, giving an around 10% chance of timelines as short as the current median.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Several later commenters and analysts had good takes here, especially Marius Hobhan of Apollo Research.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Along with correctly guessing that algorithmic progress would go much faster than bio-anchors predicted, albeit with the benefit of two more years of data, he wrote that, quote, the uncertainty from the model is probably too low.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

That is, the model is overconfident because core variables like compute price, halving time, and algorithmic efficiency are modeled as static singular values, rather than distributions that change over time, end quote.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Plausibly, if these had been distributions, you could have done a more formal sensitivity analysis on them, and then it would have identified these as crucial terms.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Nostalgiabrace unofficially noticed this, but a formal analysis could have officially noticed and quantified it, and had more uncertainty about the possibility of very early AGI.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

So what's the takeaway?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Trust forecasts more?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Trust them less.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Do better forecasting.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Don't bother.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

These questions have no right answer, but one conclusion does seem pretty firm.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Most of the bad-faced critics, having identified that Ajaya's model was imperfect and could fail, defaulted to the safe uncertainty fallacy.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Since we can never be sure a model is exactly right, things are uncertain, which means we can continue to believe everything is fine and normal, and timelines are wrong and we don't have to worry.