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Ajeya Cotra

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
626 total appearances

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

How has this idea been received by the companies?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I mean, on the one hand, it seems like transparency requirements is the regulatory instrument that the companies have objected to the least.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

It's the one that they've been most willing to tolerate.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

On the other hand, the whole message of this is we don't trust you to share information with the rest of the world.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And we think that you might screw us over basically by rushing ahead and like deliberately concealing that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I could imagine that that could be a little bit offensive to them, or at

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

If that is their plan, then they probably want to find some excuse for not having this kind of oversight.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Investors lose heart.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

extraordinary subpoena powers to basically demand almost any documents from any company in the country.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I rarely use power, and it wasn't the only agency that had that capability.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I never actually saw this power being used.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I guess people were proud of the fact that we had that authority, but I think you would usually do it for competition reasons, trying to tell whether companies are colluding potentially or whether there's an insufficient degree of market competition, and there would be a reason to intervene.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Right.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I would imagine almost certainly there's government agencies in the US that have a similar remit.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And so if they actually could keep that kind of information secret, then maybe the companies would be more happy to share it with people who are specialized basically in reading this, like comprehending this data and figuring out what to do with it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Because I guess you want common knowledge and you want lots of attention focused on the issue, as well as just some technocrats being aware.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So in as much as the plan A would be, we want them to be sharing this information such that anyone in the public can find out, I guess they'll probably resist this, any legislation imposing this to some extent.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I guess for partially legitimate reasons that it is probably going to be frustrating for them.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

How high on the list of, in as much as people are trying to set priorities for what sort of asks do you make and which sort of fights do you pick, would this be very high on the list for you?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Do you think that information about an emerging intelligence explosion might just leak out to the public anyway because staff at the companies would feel uncomfortable with that proceeding in secret?