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Ajeya Cotra

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
626 total appearances

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, there's epistemic disruption, which you mentioned.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I guess new competitive pressures kind of concerns that you can end up in a sort of Malthusian situation if you have competition between many different AIs and possibly some others that are missing here.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But there's, I guess, many other, like, I guess we don't know which of these are going to loom large at the time.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Some of them might feel like they've kind of been addressed or perhaps that we were hallucinating issues that aren't so severe.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But yeah, there's many different ways that we could potentially apply it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So you said in your notes that you think this approach is basically what all of the frontier AI companies say.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

This is their safety plan, more or less.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Is that right?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, what assumptions are necessary for this approach to make sense?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Or what kinds of setups could actually just make it a bad plan?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

There's something that's a bit self-contradictory about that because an AI that can โ€“ it's like extremely smart, but all it can do is improve the sample efficiency of the next model is in a sense like not very troubling, but in itself because it doesn't have like general capabilities.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

That kind of model isn't going to be able to take over or invent other technologies.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

It's only at the point that it has the broader โ€“

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

capabilities, the broader agency that actually is able to make problems.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But I guess you're saying you can have a long lead up where that's all that it can do.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And then at the last stage.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, I guess many of the problems that we'd like it to help with are issues like social issues, political issues, philosophical issues in some cases.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

What do you think is the chances that AI, I mean, the companies, I think they're working harder to make them good at coding and to make them good at AI research than any other particular thing.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I guess those are more concrete measurable problems than solving philosophical questions.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So it seems like it is really a live risk that unfortunately the balance of capabilities will end up being pretty disadvantageous for this plan.