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Ajeya Cotra

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626 total appearances

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Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Since Kotra and Davidson were expecting AI to get 3.6 times better every year, but it actually got 10.7 times better every year, it's no mystery why their timelines were off.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

When John recalculates Davidson's model with Epic's numbers, he finds that it estimates AGI in 2030, which matches the current vibes.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

With this information in place, it's worth looking at some prominent contemporaneous critiques of bio-anchors.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Various people criticized bio-anchors, many strange anchors, for how much compute it would take to produce AGI.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

For example, one anchor estimated that it would take 10 to the power of 45 flops, because that's how many calculations happened in all the brains of all animals throughout the evolutionary history, which eventually produced the human brain that AIs are trying to imitate.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

To make things even weirder,

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

This anchor assumed away all other animals other than nematodes as a rounding error.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Fact check, true.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

All of these seem to detract from the main show, an attempt to estimate the compute involved in the human brain.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

But even this more sober anchor was complicated by time horizons.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

It's not enough to imitate the human brain for one second, AIs need to be able to imitate the human brain's capacity for long-term planning.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Kotra calculated how much compute AGI would require if it needed a planning horizon of seconds, weeks, or years.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Thanks to META, we now know that existing AIs have already passed a point where they can do most tasks that take humans seconds, are moving through the hour range, and are just about to touch one day.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

So the seconds anchor is ruled out.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

But it also seems unlikely that AGI will require years, because most human projects don't take years, or at least can be split into tasks that take less than one year each.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Intuition pump.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

Are we sure the average employee stays at an AI lab for more than a year?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

If not, that proves that a chain of people with sub-one-year time horizons can do valuable work.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
What Happened With Bio Anchors?

The AI Futures team guessed that the time horizon necessary for AIs to really start serious recursive self-improvement was between a few weeks and a few months, though this might look like a totally different number on the meter graph, which doesn't translate perfectly into real life.