Al Dukes

And they're now at the point where, all right, now I got to look to like office jobs or like, and then they're worried about is AI going to take that job if I get a job like that, you know?

So it's not, it's not easy.

I will tell you in CeeLo's case, I do really believe he does well.

The problem for him, and it does suck, is he has no vacation days.

So if he takes off, he doesn't get paid.

But he does get, I don't even think he uses it because I think his wife has a good job with benefits, but he can get a full family medical because through the union he works plenty of shifts and makes enough money.

But you are correct in that between SNY and here and whatever else he does, he actually does relatively well.

It's part-time.

But it's like a full-time, part-time job, especially adding serious to the mix.

Right.

It's just you don't know where you're at every week.

Right.

That's the problem.

You're not wrong.

Yeah.

It's hard.

It's a hard business.

And it's weird because there feels like and seems like there's so much more opportunity with the podcasting now.

But how many of those are real jobs that are actually going to pay you?

Right.