Al Robertson

We're like brains on a stick.

And then the Reformation came and it was, no, we're primarily believing beings.

And he said, no, really what we primarily are.

is we're worshipers, we're lovers.

Yeah, it's not a matter of if you'll love or it's a matter of who or what you'll love.

And so that joy, I think what that sanctification does and the spiritual formative practices, at least for me, it's helped reorient and re-index my desires toward their proper end.

Now, that's a message that will resonate with young people because that is, I think, for my whole life, that's where I felt the emptiness.

is a disoriented love.

To me, the idea of progressive sanctification is just how do we reorient that to its proper end.

That's the joy that's sitting out there.

No, I think that's a great point, too, the process of it.

And...

I think Eugene Peterson said it's – or I think Nietzsche actually said it first.

It's a long obedience in the same direction.

But I think that's the – when you mentioned that – it's long.

It's extended.

I mean it's the mundane moments that really form the person in our gut, that gut you were talking about.

Do you think that that's one of the reasons why spiritual formation takes kind of a backseat in a lot of preaching?

Because it's not that light switch moment.

It's a hard sell.