Al Robertson

And I love it when you can create, um, other people.

I could never do, I don't have enough creativity to do that, but you created like this, this new group of people, uh, and in a setting where children would love the story, uh,

and how you describe it, and they're called the Sunders.

But tell a little bit about why you wrote it and kind of what your purpose was in writing.

That's what I thought.

I thought baby Groot.

That's exactly what I thought.

Yeah, you say the quote that you add in there at the very end, before there was a way into the light, someone had to step down into darkness.

And it's really, really, really good.

And one of the things I love, we talk a lot on this podcast about,

about living in light now and the idea of when Jesus came, he brought eternity and the concept with him.

And so when the kingdom is established, we live in the light now.

And that's what the book teaches, which I thought was really, really good.

In other words, instead of waiting until eternity before we go into this light, it's like now.

Well, and Melissa, that was one of the things I said was like C.S.

Lewis because a lot of his allegories, he pressed the same point that you're doing in it.

And I love it that it's shaping in the minds of children because they have to see, you know, they may not even get it in the moment, but they're going to get it at some point.

But the idea that it's hard to separate from that which we're plagued with because that's what we know.

And a lot of Lewis's work was like that.

Zach, you mentioned before on the lizard, remember on the—was that from Great Divorce?