Al Robertson

I mean, how do we know that we love God is that we love his commandments.

And His commandments are burdensome.

And so I think it's like the whole verse, like I said, John, it's a reframing.

I like to say it's a connection point.

Al, you said in the previous podcast, it's not what you know, it's who you know.

It's probably both.

I mean, honestly, it's like what you know has to lead you to a participation in who you know.

And so you just can't separate these things.

Like, yeah, I need to know the truth about a certain thing.

But that truth is a relational knowledge.

It's not...

I think we want to separate the field of knowledge, and we want to say relationships over here, and then cognition is over here.

They're separate.

Well, in God's economy, that's not true.

In God's economy, it's all His.

And so what we're really trying to be brought into alignment with is,

and that's a good word, is alignment, is we're trying to live in our design.

We are trying to live the word that we tell us.

We're trying to live inside of what that is.

And when you're not aligned,