Alan C. Mack

And then I flew them there. And then I ended up instructing in those, and then we get into the 160th later.

So you start out, so it's different now. But at the time, what you did is you first went to WOC school, Warrant Officer Candidate School. And that was like eight weeks of, we start out with, you know, you did Hell Week. We had like Hell Day, you know, and it was tough. And I remember the little head game they played was a, You know, they came in, you're beat to hell. And they'd say, okay.

So you start out, so it's different now. But at the time, what you did is you first went to WOC school, Warrant Officer Candidate School. And that was like eight weeks of, we start out with, you know, you did Hell Week. We had like Hell Day, you know, and it was tough. And I remember the little head game they played was a, You know, they came in, you're beat to hell. And they'd say, okay.

So you start out, so it's different now. But at the time, what you did is you first went to WOC school, Warrant Officer Candidate School. And that was like eight weeks of, we start out with, you know, you did Hell Week. We had like Hell Day, you know, and it was tough. And I remember the little head game they played was a, You know, they came in, you're beat to hell. And they'd say, okay.

Somebody yells in the room, you know, 20%, got it. And then they're like, we just got off the phone with the Secretary of the Army. You know, we have to lose 20% of you because of budget cuts. So we're just going to do hell day every day until 20% of you quit, right? And I'm like, well, I'm not quitting. You know, you're going to have to throw me out of here.

Somebody yells in the room, you know, 20%, got it. And then they're like, we just got off the phone with the Secretary of the Army. You know, we have to lose 20% of you because of budget cuts. So we're just going to do hell day every day until 20% of you quit, right? And I'm like, well, I'm not quitting. You know, you're going to have to throw me out of here.

Somebody yells in the room, you know, 20%, got it. And then they're like, we just got off the phone with the Secretary of the Army. You know, we have to lose 20% of you because of budget cuts. So we're just going to do hell day every day until 20% of you quit, right? And I'm like, well, I'm not quitting. You know, you're going to have to throw me out of here.

And there were guys, it was like one guy got up and walked out. So it worked. You know, I was like, all right, he didn't want to be here.

And there were guys, it was like one guy got up and walked out. So it worked. You know, I was like, all right, he didn't want to be here.

And there were guys, it was like one guy got up and walked out. So it worked. You know, I was like, all right, he didn't want to be here.

You know, it's like, you know, crawling through the mud pits and push-ups and mountain climbers and just burning you out physically.

You know, it's like, you know, crawling through the mud pits and push-ups and mountain climbers and just burning you out physically.

You know, it's like, you know, crawling through the mud pits and push-ups and mountain climbers and just burning you out physically.

Yeah, it's a big, it's a beat down. And it is not pleasant, to say the least, especially for Army aviators. or guys that want to be. And these guys, you know, the TAC officers are walking around, just like the guys at Bud's, you know, except back then, you know, smoking a cigarette. Come on, let's go upstairs. We'll get some donuts and some coffee. It's warm. You know, it's comfortable.

Yeah, it's a big, it's a beat down. And it is not pleasant, to say the least, especially for Army aviators. or guys that want to be. And these guys, you know, the TAC officers are walking around, just like the guys at Bud's, you know, except back then, you know, smoking a cigarette. Come on, let's go upstairs. We'll get some donuts and some coffee. It's warm. You know, it's comfortable.

Yeah, it's a big, it's a beat down. And it is not pleasant, to say the least, especially for Army aviators. or guys that want to be. And these guys, you know, the TAC officers are walking around, just like the guys at Bud's, you know, except back then, you know, smoking a cigarette. Come on, let's go upstairs. We'll get some donuts and some coffee. It's warm. You know, it's comfortable.

You get a shower. We'll just put you on your way. Look, you're an E7. You know, there were guys that were E7s there. It's like, you're an E7. You had a good life. Why do you want to do this? You know, and they, yeah, right, screw it. You know, I quit. You know, and guys would just do that. There were, I don't know, four or five guys. during it and that one guy in the meeting.

You get a shower. We'll just put you on your way. Look, you're an E7. You know, there were guys that were E7s there. It's like, you're an E7. You had a good life. Why do you want to do this? You know, and they, yeah, right, screw it. You know, I quit. You know, and guys would just do that. There were, I don't know, four or five guys. during it and that one guy in the meeting.

You get a shower. We'll just put you on your way. Look, you're an E7. You know, there were guys that were E7s there. It's like, you're an E7. You had a good life. Why do you want to do this? You know, and they, yeah, right, screw it. You know, I quit. You know, and guys would just do that. There were, I don't know, four or five guys. during it and that one guy in the meeting.

And, you know, they do that to you, not to that extent, but for the next eight weeks because you're not flying. So you're doing what we call cubing, right? So you have a cubicle, right? You have your bunk, you know, a desk, a locker. And every morning when you get up, you have, I don't know, 10 minutes to have your bunk with a white collar on it and your coat hangers to be exact.