Alan Kohler

So did you kind of distinguish between those two things in thinking about the productivity growth?

Just finally, I want to talk about Australia.

Late last month, Antropic held a briefing with 170 representatives from Australian finance, communications, transport, energy, data, and a whole lot of sectors.

Is the goal of the business to become as integrated with all elements of society as possible, do you think?

Is that how you're approaching it?

Yeah, fair enough.

Are you able to talk to us a bit about Mythos?

I mean, this is sort of an extra Claude project or part of an extension of Claude that was kind of released but not released or withdrawn because of its dangers in hacking.

What I'm interested in is whether

To what extent that kind of tells us where we're heading here.

I mean, it seems to have been such a dramatic improvement in Claude's capability that it's able to both do and withstand any amount of hacking.

Is that right?

I mean, how should we think about this?

So in releasing it to certain organizations, should those organizations be friendly countries like Australia?

I mean, the chief lawyer of anthropic apparently flew to Australia recently for closed door negotiations with

the Australian government, you probably don't know what he was talking about, but is it possible that that involves, you know, releasing or giving governments like Australia access to mythos?

Fair enough.

Thanks for having me.

It was a delight.

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