Alan Kohler

You have to get it earlier.

Yeah, that's a very good point.

I mean, we haven't talked about build to rent, which has been a part of the policy mix.

Do you think that what's being done in that space on that score is going okay?

I mean, should more be done to encourage institutions to build housing developments, apartment blocks, so they can just rent them out and own them?

Yeah, it's interesting that they invested overseas.

Is there something the government could do to encourage it in Australia more?

Just finally, back to the housing accord target of $1.2 million and the number that you came up with of net new dwellings over the five years of $862,000.

Do you think it's possible they'll catch up?

Or should they just accept that they'll fall short by then and it'll just take a year or two longer?

Thanks very much, Susan Lloyd Hurwitz.

That's been great talking to you.

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Yes, well, I followed up this morning and what they call the cracker, which is the RCCU, which stands for Residue Catalytic Cracking Unit, is still offline.

So the production of diesel and jet fuel is still at 80%.

Petrol is 60%.