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Alan Sisto

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The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

In a way, that's exactly what's happening here because Saruman is afraid.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

It's fear that's driving this.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

And, yeah, it's – and, of course, Saruman thinks like – everybody thinks like he does.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

So that's the thing, right?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

It's an echo of that earlier line we read.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

I don't know if this was last week or the week before.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

He was himself so far fallen that he believed all others of the council had each their deep and far-reaching policies for their own enhancement.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

Of course, because he does.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

Therefore, everybody else must too.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

But would that be a good idea?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

Because if the ring is seeking for its master... And his master's close by.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

His master's not far, and you find it, do you think it's going to stop looking for its master?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

Oh, I found a new master now?

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

No, no.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

But I think that might be why it gets struck through because Tolkien himself, as Christopher explains, said later that based on Gandalf's story in the Council of Elrond about his encounter with Radagast, he did not suspect Saruman's treachery at that point.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

In fact, he didn't suspect him until he became imprisoned in Orthanc.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

And I think it would help us to kind of grasp that more fully if we actually take a look at the context.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

Let's go back to that moment in the council.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

This is where Gandalf is telling the story of his meeting with Radagast.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
412 – Far Fallen

I turned then east and north and journeyed along the greenway, and not far from Bree I came upon a traveller sitting on a bank beside the road with his grazing horse beside him.