Alan Sisto

Is there enough of a difference between the obsession with the rings and full-blown treachery?

Or is it just the mere fact that he desired to have the ring 150 years ago is enough for Gandalf to not do this in The Lord of the Rings?

Exactly.

Yeah.

If I think you're in doubt, I'm not going to give you a chance to prove it.

And I mean, maybe if I could bring Galadriel and Celeborn with me and Elrond and we all show up.

An impromptu white council meeting.

Yeah, there was a local Starbucks down the road.

We just had a coffee and now we're, we just thought we'd stop by and say hi.

What are you, you're not going to find out.

In fact, if anything, you need to go to the Shire because that's where you're needed more than, than to Saruman.

If you, if you doubt Saruman.

Yeah.

And you already know that Saruman has gone to the Shire and is interested at least in, I mean, that's bad.

Let's just have this meeting via, uh, you know, uh, Osan way, you know, I'll just ring you up.

All right.

Well, it cannot be doubted that Barlowman had as yet no thought that the halflings, and still less their smoking, had any connection with the mailbag.

Matt, what does Barlowman have in his bag for us today?

Of course.

Of course we were going to get a question on this.