Alan Waxman

And if you have people who don't want to be team players and share information and share relationships...

the whole unitization of risk units and return units, it all breaks down.

So culture goes hand in hand with our investing style.

So the first thing is, did they fit in culturally?

And then the second thing, obviously, everyone's got to be smart enough, but we really wanted people that could think critically, but also were open to the anti of my baby's the prettiest people.

They don't fall in love with whatever they're spending time on.

They have the ability to sort of what we would say at Sixth Street is to play tennis and like comparing a health care senior secured loan to buying a health care company to a European real estate deal to Asian infrastructure.

They'll be able to sort of engage in what we call playing tennis to sort of compare relative risk reward and sort of the backdrop of whatever we think the macro environment is as well.

So I started running business, I think I was 25 years at Goldman.

We always said, no politics, no BS, no egos, nice people.

That's what we wanted to be around.

So I grew up in Austin, Texas, and I was always a San Antonio Spurs fan.

So I was always from afar a big fan of Popovich and R.C.

Buford, who's

literally one of the best sports executives.

He's unbelievable and almost like a brother to me now.

He's an exceptional human being.

But we went in there, I was describing Sixth Street and RC, based on one of our first discussions, says, yeah, we have a scene for that.

Popovich said the same thing.

It's, are you over yourself yet?