Alan Wyley

So you certainly know in the afternoon.

Of course, wind by its nature is not totally predictable, but you do know in advance and you can inform people in advance of the likelihood of there being waste.

Not entirely so.

I mean, of course, in some areas of the grid, it's a bit like the roads network.

There are motorways and regional roads and borines and so on.

So in some parts of the country where the wind farms are, yeah, you'd have to use it locally.

But in other parts of the country, if you kept the wind farms on, like, for example, in Offaly, you could almost certainly use that waste in Galway, Cork, Limerick and so on.

So for sure, there's the ability to do both actually, David, it's not an either or.

It's part of the solution but it still doesn't help you with the fact that you can't always move the energy where you want it to be.

So batteries are certainly a part of the solution and we're doing pilots with batteries and smart storage heaters that Aoife mentioned there a moment ago as well.

But I think the real thing and what's wonderful about what the UK have done today is the announcement shows you that if you make that announcement then everybody can work out the exact how, David.

And this is the point we made to the Minister when we met him recently.

which is if you never make the announcement to use the waste, in other words, if you say it's OK for this waste to happen, which is what the government is currently saying, we don't agree, obviously.

But if that's what they're saying, nothing ever changes.

But when you make an announcement that you want to use the waste, then ourselves, the department officials, Airgrid, ESB and so on can come together and work out the how.

And under that, batteries is part of it, David, but it's not the only part of it.