Alastair Blanshard
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So it's a very clear Athenian victory that saves the majority of the Athenian fleet. Now, it's also a kind of extraordinary battle because it has this amazing aftermath as well, which is that just at the end of the battle, a storm comes up and the generals make the strategic decision
not to pick up the bodies of the Athenian sailors who were of the Athenian ships that had been attacked and destroyed by the Spartans. And this proves to be a fatal decision for these generals because when they arrived back in Athens, the families of the drowned sailors or the sailors whose bodies weren't recovered
not to pick up the bodies of the Athenian sailors who were of the Athenian ships that had been attacked and destroyed by the Spartans. And this proves to be a fatal decision for these generals because when they arrived back in Athens, the families of the drowned sailors or the sailors whose bodies weren't recovered
not to pick up the bodies of the Athenian sailors who were of the Athenian ships that had been attacked and destroyed by the Spartans. And this proves to be a fatal decision for these generals because when they arrived back in Athens, the families of the drowned sailors or the sailors whose bodies weren't recovered
indict the generals and talk about how terrible it was that they wouldn't stop to pick up the bodies of their loved ones. And so the assembly turns on the generals. And so this is an amazing moment where they've got this incredible victory that has saved the Athenian fleet, and yet the people turn on them. there is a trial and the generals are sentenced to death.
indict the generals and talk about how terrible it was that they wouldn't stop to pick up the bodies of their loved ones. And so the assembly turns on the generals. And so this is an amazing moment where they've got this incredible victory that has saved the Athenian fleet, and yet the people turn on them. there is a trial and the generals are sentenced to death.
indict the generals and talk about how terrible it was that they wouldn't stop to pick up the bodies of their loved ones. And so the assembly turns on the generals. And so this is an amazing moment where they've got this incredible victory that has saved the Athenian fleet, and yet the people turn on them. there is a trial and the generals are sentenced to death.
Well, so this goes down as one of the great indictments of democracy. It's pretty clear that, in fact, legal procedures weren't followed, and certainly the anti-democratic forces always hold up the trial of the Arcanusite generals as a good example of the intemperate nature of democracy that's driven by its passions rather than by reason, that it's driven by emotion.
Well, so this goes down as one of the great indictments of democracy. It's pretty clear that, in fact, legal procedures weren't followed, and certainly the anti-democratic forces always hold up the trial of the Arcanusite generals as a good example of the intemperate nature of democracy that's driven by its passions rather than by reason, that it's driven by emotion.
Well, so this goes down as one of the great indictments of democracy. It's pretty clear that, in fact, legal procedures weren't followed, and certainly the anti-democratic forces always hold up the trial of the Arcanusite generals as a good example of the intemperate nature of democracy that's driven by its passions rather than by reason, that it's driven by emotion.
And this idea of turning on these victorious generals, a disaster. And so they turn on their generals. So the generals are the big loser of the Battle of Argonousai. The winners, however, are the slaves who rode at Argonusa. So Argonusa is this extraordinary battle because it has these two outcomes. One, which is the generals that get put on trial.
And this idea of turning on these victorious generals, a disaster. And so they turn on their generals. So the generals are the big loser of the Battle of Argonousai. The winners, however, are the slaves who rode at Argonusa. So Argonusa is this extraordinary battle because it has these two outcomes. One, which is the generals that get put on trial.
And this idea of turning on these victorious generals, a disaster. And so they turn on their generals. So the generals are the big loser of the Battle of Argonousai. The winners, however, are the slaves who rode at Argonusa. So Argonusa is this extraordinary battle because it has these two outcomes. One, which is the generals that get put on trial.
But then the slaves who actually had rode at the battle in Argonusa and been responsible also for this extraordinary success, they get their freedom and seem to be made Athenian citizens. So they go from being slave rowers to suddenly Athenian citizens practically overnight as a result of Argonusa.
But then the slaves who actually had rode at the battle in Argonusa and been responsible also for this extraordinary success, they get their freedom and seem to be made Athenian citizens. So they go from being slave rowers to suddenly Athenian citizens practically overnight as a result of Argonusa.
But then the slaves who actually had rode at the battle in Argonusa and been responsible also for this extraordinary success, they get their freedom and seem to be made Athenian citizens. So they go from being slave rowers to suddenly Athenian citizens practically overnight as a result of Argonusa.
Well, this is it. This is the great advantage of having Persia on your side is you lose one fleet, you get another one. And it must be said that the Persians at this time are fully committed. So in the initial stages of the Persian-Spartan alliance, Spartans actually accused the Persians of shortchanging them and being not too flash with their cash in terms of supporting their military efforts.
Well, this is it. This is the great advantage of having Persia on your side is you lose one fleet, you get another one. And it must be said that the Persians at this time are fully committed. So in the initial stages of the Persian-Spartan alliance, Spartans actually accused the Persians of shortchanging them and being not too flash with their cash in terms of supporting their military efforts.
Well, this is it. This is the great advantage of having Persia on your side is you lose one fleet, you get another one. And it must be said that the Persians at this time are fully committed. So in the initial stages of the Persian-Spartan alliance, Spartans actually accused the Persians of shortchanging them and being not too flash with their cash in terms of supporting their military efforts.
Certainly by this stage, however, they're fully committed to the alliance. Also, the other thing is that there's a very capable Spartan commander by the name of Lysander who is on the scene. He is someone who the Persians seem to have extraordinary confidence in, particularly the son of the Persian king, Darius II. This is a guy by the name of Cyrus the Younger.