Alastair Campbell

It's a really tough read.

There will be some of our listeners who think it'll just be completely biased.

But it's got a lot of data in here.

It measures it.

He's clearly done the work.

And it's a horrible read in a way, but I think it's important that people do see it for what it is.

Or right at the start, immediately after October the 7th itself, the stories of 40 babies being beheaded.

Which became a fact.

Yeah.

That's the other thing that strengthens the case here.

This is not a left-wing pro-Palestinian guy going at Donald Trump.

This is one year of the Biden's term.

And then this headline from The Onion, a satirical publication, ran the headline, Dying Gazans Criticized for Not Using Last Words to Condemn Hamas.

It was the thing that, you know, you wouldn't get heard on any of in any of this unless you first went on and said, of course.

It's a very, very interesting, challenging read.

So that's what I was doing at the weekend, Rory, and I'm sorry if you missed all my WhatsApps.

Well, mental health, definitely part of it.

I actually, yesterday, was sitting here in the studio with Vicky Spratt, who is a journalist who has taught thousands and thousands of Gen Z, and she's doing a miniseries for us.

We're now commissioners, Rory.

We're commissioners as well as presenters.